The firearm thread

[Wolf]

Rifles and carbines?

So used to calling the longer firearms "rifles".

Musket, smooth bore. "Long Land Pattern Musket" aka "Brown Bess". Satisfied, fart smella?

[Mr Merde]

Was drooling over some pics of Brown Bess rifles and carbines on-line last night. Saw one that went for $700 on Tardme - though I'm pretty sure it was a firing replica - it had "Made in Italy" and "BLACK POWDER ONLY" on the receiver (and I doubt they felt the need to warn people to only use black powder back when it was the standard propellant, smacks of modern post nitro-propellant manufacture.)

Wound up having a wicked dream that a bunch of us from this thread were all ogling over some really rare and unusual firearm - dunno what most of you look like but you were in the dream.

Would seriously love to get into firing old flinters. Found a thing on youtube that looked good:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJMbx...eature=related

Love the last shot! Advert for firearms safety.

Let me know when you want a "Brown Bess".

I have a mate with one of those replicas. It has been altered a bit to get rid of these markings you speak of.

He is thinking of selling it.

.75 caliber round ball from a smoothbore.

I have shot this particular shoulder arm and it is very nice.

This friend also has a custom built Jaeger Rifle (flintlock) with all the whistles and bells. He is thinking of selling this also but it will command a premium price.


Chris

[Wolf]

Let me know when you want a "Brown Bess".

"Oh," he said airily, "only about 28 years ago..."

It's the "when I can afford one" bit that bugs me.

What sort of "premium price"?


Let's raise the level of the thread:


"Brown Bess"

In the days of lace-ruffles, perukes and brocade
Brown Bess was a partner whom none could despise--
An out-spoken, flinty-lipped, brazen-faced jade,
With a habit of looking men straight in the eyes--
At Blenheim and Ramillies fops would confess
They were pierced to the heart by the charms of Brown Bess.

Though her sight was not long and her weight was not small,
Yet her actions were winning, her language was clear;
And everyone bowed as she opened the ball
On the arm of some high-gaitered, grim grenadier.
Half Europe admitted the striking success
Of the dances and routs that were given by Brown Bess.

When ruffles were turned into stiff leather stocks,
And people wore pigtails instead of perukes,
Brown Bess never altered her iron-grey locks.
She knew she was valued for more than her looks.
"Oh, powder and patches was always my dress,
And I think am killing enough," said Brown Bess.

So she followed her red-coats, whatever they did,
From the heights of Quebec to the plains of Assaye,
From Gibraltar to Acre, Cape Town and Madrid,
And nothing about her was changed on the way;
(But most of the Empire which now we possess
Was won through those years by old-fashioned Brown Bess.)

In stubborn retreat or in stately advance,
From the Portugal coast to the cork-woods of Spain,
She had puzzled some excellent Marshals of France
Till none of them wanted to meet her again:
But later, near Brussels, Napoleon--no less--
Arranged for a Waterloo ball with Brown Bess.

She had danced till the dawn of that terrible day--
She danced till the dusk of more terrible night,
And before her linked squares his battalions gave way,
And her long fierce quadrilles put his lancers to flight:
And when his gilt carriage drove off in the press,
"I have danced my last dance for the world!" said Brown Bess.

If you go to Museums--there's one in Whitehall--
Where old weapons are shown with their names writ beneath,
You will find her, upstanding, her back to the wall,
As stiff as a ramrod, the flint in her teeth.
And if ever we English had reason to bless
Any arm save our mothers', that arm is Brown Bess!

Rudyard Kipling

[hospitalfood]

ok, listed my Saiga on trade me, its a nice one, want to look at trade options on a dirt bike to.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...x?id=187311779

[jrandom]

Musket, smooth bore. "Long Land Pattern Musket" aka "Brown Bess". Satisfied, fart smella?

Thank you.

Sorry, I've been reading Bernard Cornwell again, you know how it is...

[sAsLEX]

ok, listed my Saiga on trade me, its a nice one, want to look at trade options on a dirt bike to.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...x?id=187311779

I have a 84 Xr 250 that hasn't run in 3 years you could swap for the rifle.....

[Indiana_Jones]

Nice looking weapon there

Love Russian guns lol

-Indy

[Wolf]

Love Russian guns lol

Yep. Loved the old Nagant, love the SKS (real Russian one, not the Norinco) would love a Dragunov - the old model, not the sports version that's come out ?recently?
Have much higher priorities than a Dragunov, though.

[Wolf]

Sorry, I've been reading Bernard Cornwell again, you know how it is...

Rien du tout, ol' bean - I've never read him.

[Hitcher]

Rien du tout

Wasn't he the Springbok halfback in the 1956 tour?

[jrandom]

I've never read him.

The Sharpe novels? Never? Oh, you don't know what you're missing.

Back-to-back the series with some Hornblower, and you'll be waking up every morning bellowing for kippers and death to the French in no time.

[Wolf]

you'll be waking up every morning bellowing for kippers and death to the French in no time.

But I already do that! (Sorry, 007XX )

[Mr Merde]

As mentioned. I have a friend with one of these for sale.

It is a Pedersoli replica.

It comes with all the acroutrements, ie mould, flint, etc and a large number of cast ball.

He is after $800 for the lot.

PM me if anyone is interested.

I have seen and fired this flinter. It is in excellent condition.


Chris

[hospitalfood]

sAsLEX.....

mmm, it would have to be running.
can get similar bike, that age, road legal, for $ 1200.00

[Indiana_Jones]

http://www.hayesandassociates.co.nz/

This site has nice replica 19th century rifles like Sharps etc.

Might be your cup of tea Chris.

Also, where can one buy "rifle kits" as in you buy the rifle in pieces and you build it.

-Indy