The firearm thread

**Monsterbishi** · 29th March 2009, 16:16

Originally Posted by STOLLI R1

One of my .22s is an M1 carbine copy by ERMA Werke called an EM1 and if any body reads this knowing where another one is let me know! I really want to loose the scope thats on it, and get the correct rear sight for it.

I have a friend who has just bought one in from Germany, I'll get the website from him and get back to you, they are quite common over there.

**Mr Merde** · 30th March 2009, 07:15

Originally Posted by scumdog

Speaking of such stuff, I have a Chinese M1 carbine style 22 semi-auto, it shoots well but the 10 shot plastic mag has a split down the front and it won't fit into the magazine well if there is more than 6 or 7 rounds in it and I can't seem to buy another one, abybody got any ideas where I could get one??

More than 7 rounds in a semi auto rifle. Mmmm

Scummy, I do hope you have this on your E cat licence.

**Wolf** · 30th March 2009, 09:14

Originally Posted by Mr Merde

More than 7 rounds in a semi auto rifle. Mmmm

Scummy, I do hope you have this on your E cat licence.

Dude, it's a .22 - the 7-round restriction is for centre-fire. 10-round mags are perfectly kosher for .22 semis

**Mr Merde** · 30th March 2009, 10:09

Originally Posted by Wolf

Dude, it's a .22 - the 7-round restriction is for centre-fire. 10-round mags are perfectly kosher for .22 semis

Realised that after I postred.

Sorry Scummy.

More than 15 for a .22 and you need an E cat

BTW.

I spent a pleasant 3 hours training with my pistols on Saturday morning. Went to the range in Waiuku and just started from scratch.

Holster work was very rusty. Mt transitions were abismal.

Aim was OK just the fluidness I need for competition was gone.

Looks like I need to do a lot of dry fire practicew at home before my next competition (MAY)

Only good thing came out of the exercise was the rounds I was using.
.44 mag cases
200gn bullet of soft lead.
Magum primer and 4.9 gns of AS30N powder.

Lovely light load. Accurate and easy on the recoil. Good in the carbine also.

I need to do some work on the carbine. Not ejecting properly. Too many stovepipes.

**The Pastor** · 30th March 2009, 12:51

Originally Posted by Mr Merde

Looks like I need to do a lot of dry fire practice at home before my next competition (MAY)

Tui anyone

**sAsLEX** · 30th March 2009, 14:55

Originally Posted by renegade master

Tui anyone

Don't mix alcohol and firearms........

**Mr Merde** · 31st March 2009, 07:32

Originally Posted by renegade master

Tui anyone

So either you dont think that I will practice or I cant practice without actual live rounds.

You could be right on both counts but as everyone knows you are only allowed to use pistols on approved ranges whilst on private land you are allowed to shoot anything you like.

Nice anominaly.

I can legally shoot a bolt action .50 BMG bolt action rifle, with a theoretical range of 6000 metres, on a piece of private land, but not a .22 pistol that has a theoretical range if 1km.

Wheres the logic in that?

I can shoot a Ruger Mini 14 rifle with my A cat but if I dare put a pistol grip stock on it ( because my shoulder is knackered) then I need a wholey different licence because it has suddenly become an "assault rifle"

There are some fuckwits making up our laws arent there?

**The Pastor** · 31st March 2009, 07:38

Originally Posted by Mr Merde

So either you dont think that I will practice or I cant practice without actual live rounds.

You could be right on both counts but as everyone knows you are only allowed to use pistols on approved ranges whilst on private land you are allowed to shoot anything you like.

Nice anominaly.

I can legally shoot a bolt action .50 BMG bolt action rifle, with a theoretical range of 6000 metres, on a piece of private land, but not a .22 pistol that has a theoretical range if 1km.

Wheres the logic in that?

I can shoot a Ruger Mini 14 rifle with my A cat but if I dare put a pistol grip stock on it ( because my shoulder is knackered) then I need a wholey different licence because it has suddenly become an "assault rifle"

There are some fuckwits making up our laws arent there?

and dont for get the rule, dont drink and shoot. that ones wack.

**Mr Merde** · 31st March 2009, 12:37

Originally Posted by renegade master

and dont for get the rule, dont drink and shoot. that ones wack.

A well known shooter and writer on firearms, Elmer Keith, saldly deceased, states in his book "Sixguns", that if you are partial to a small drink before shooting then you should maintain the habit.

He doesnt imply that you should get plastered but that you shouldnt change your habits and lifestyle just to shoot.

I like this man.

He owned and kept a lot of guns. Every gun in his house was loaded.

His idea was not for you to assume that they were unloaded but to know they were loaded. If every gun is loaded and others knew then they wouldnt ponce around with them thinking they were "safe"

**Monsterbishi** · 31st March 2009, 12:46

Originally Posted by Mr Merde

There are some fuckwits making up our laws aren't there?

It's not the ones making the laws that are the problem, it's the end of the scale where the idiots reside that make them necessary in the first place.

Be thankful for the current restrictions, when they were originally put in place they were the best outcome possible to stave off the push by groups to ban the weapons completely.

The lesser of two evils as it were, or would you prefer not to have the weapons at all?

**Drunken Monkey** · 31st March 2009, 13:48

Originally Posted by Mr Merde

There are some fuckwits making up our laws arent there?

...yes, but look at how firearm control and MSSA prohibition has helped society. I mean, there's no such thing as murder by firearm any more, is there?

Yeah right...

**scumdog** · 31st March 2009, 16:20

Originally Posted by Mr Merde

More than 7 rounds in a semi auto rifle. Mmmm

Scummy, I do hope you have this on your E cat licence.

Not for this baby - it's a .22!!

**scumdog** · 31st March 2009, 16:24

Originally Posted by Mr Merde

So either you dont think that I will practice or I cant practice without actual live rounds.

You could be right on both counts but as everyone knows you are only allowed to use pistols on approved ranges whilst on private land you are allowed to shoot anything you like.

Nice anominaly.

I can legally shoot a bolt action .50 BMG bolt action rifle, with a theoretical range of 6000 metres, on a piece of private land, but not a .22 pistol that has a theoretical range if 1km.

Wheres the logic in that?

I can shoot a Ruger Mini 14 rifle with my A cat but if I dare put a pistol grip stock on it ( because my shoulder is knackered) then I need a wholey different licence because it has suddenly become an "assault rifle"

There are some fuckwits making up our laws arent there?

Yup, 15 shot semi-auto .22? - no problem.

A 5-shot .22 semi-auto with a pistol-grip? Oooooo, suddenly now you have a MSSA, go figure?

And who can remember those Mossberg (I think, memory is a bit fuzzy about the 60's) that came out with a fold down kinda pistol-grip on the fore-end??

Would they be cat E stuff??

**frogfeaturesFZR** · 31st March 2009, 17:38

Anyone had anything to do with the Norinco K98 .22 ?
My youngest is a militaria fan and is thinking about buying one.
5 round bolt action, seems the perfect first 'real rifle' to me.
Looking at a picture, it seems he may need to buy higher scope mounts, has
anyone tried a scope on one of these ?

**The Pastor** · 31st March 2009, 18:44

Originally Posted by frogfeaturesFZR

Anyone had anything to do with the Norinco K98 .22 ?
My youngest is a militaria fan and is thinking about buying one.
5 round bolt action, seems the perfect first 'real rifle' to me.
Looking at a picture, it seems he may need to buy higher scope mounts, has
anyone tried a scope on one of these ?

All I know mate is they look cool