The firearm thread

**Mr Merde** · 22nd February 2007, 19:24

Originally Posted by scumdog

I'm only guessing here but do you mean the difference between skeet and trap shooting?

Skeet is where the clay 'birds' are launched from a tall building called a tower and a lower building, these buildings are as Sniper says, about 37 metres apart (looked closer to me!) and the 'birds' go more or less from left to right from one or both towers at different angles for each shooter who also moves to different 'stations' each time he shoots.

Trap shooting has a 'bunker' set into the ground central to the range but at an angle to the shooter as the shooter moves from left to right to differing locations after each shot ( and at different distances) the bunker launches the 'birds' away from the shooter but at various angles to the left or right (you never know which way it is going to go) and at various angles of climb.

Sorry if it is not well explained but hope you get the gist of it.

Definitely sounds like fun. I wonder if there is a clays range here in Sth Auckland/ Nth Bombay?

**Kickaha** · 22nd February 2007, 19:51

Originally Posted by Mr Merde

Thomas Crapper, developer of the flushing toilet system

No he wasn't

**Mr Merde** · 22nd February 2007, 19:56

Originally Posted by Kickaha

No he wasn't

Didnt say invent it but develop it

From Wikipaedia

"Despite urban legend, Crapper did not invent the flush toilet (the myth being helped by the surname). However, Crapper put in effort to popularise it and did come up with some related inventions. He was noted for the quality of his products and received several Royal Warrants."

**Mr Merde** · 22nd February 2007, 20:28

Slight change of subject from shotguns or maybe not just an related theme.

How many of you reload your own ammunition?

What calibers do you load for?

What equipment do you have?

I'll start.

I reload for 9mm , .44 Special, .44 Magnum, .38 spl, .357 magnum, .223, 30-30, 45-70, .30 Carbine, .308, 7mmTCU, 12 guage.

What do I have?

Dies for each of these calibers.

Scales,

Lee Turret press.

Case care products,

Tumblers.

Lead melting pots, moulds etc.

Every month more get added to.

Have to balance shooting equipment with bike gear.

How long have I been reloading? About 24 years.

Why? For relaxation, because its interesting to me and becuasee its cheaper. I find I can tailor the rounds for each rifle/pistol and by doing so can get better results.

As an example .44 Mag box of 50 costs about $60.
I can make the same 50 rounds to much higher tolerances for about $10 or less.

Even when you amortise in the cost of the equipment it works out much cheaper in the long run.

SOme calibers are cheaper to buy. 12 guage is cheaper to but than make but I enjoy making these so I will continue.

I have a head full of balistics and such from all these years but still get excited when I create a round that groups as light as I can make it.

Post your experiences, questions, stories. Its all shooting and firearms related so enjoy.

**geoffm** · 23rd February 2007, 21:26

Originally Posted by Mr Merde

Definitely sounds like fun. I wonder if there is a clays range here in Sth Auckland/ Nth Bombay?

There is a clay bird club in Pukekohe (up gun club road IIRC....)
The Waiuku Pistol Club has a fun shotgun shoot once a month.
Geoff

**0arbreaka** · 24th February 2007, 03:32

Originally Posted by Mr Merde

Definitely sounds like fun. I wonder if there is a clays range here in Sth Auckland/ Nth Bombay?

Yep there is, Pukekohe gun club. I used to do clay target as a sport for my school and we used to train out there.

**Mr Merde** · 26th February 2007, 15:58

Originally Posted by patd0g

Yep there is, Pukekohe gun club. I used to do clay target as a sport for my school and we used to train out there.

I will give them a try

**Mr Merde** · 28th February 2007, 08:48

I am hoping for a little advice from one of you out there in cyberland.

I am trying to load for a Winchester 94 in 30-30. 20" barrel

The heads I have are 170gn
Winchester Brass
Federal Large rifle primers.

Looking for a nice accurate load to go with these components.

Not looking for a hunting round.

Accuracy at 250-300 meters is what I am looking for with velocity not much more than about 1700fps.

Had this rifle for over a year now and hardly shot it. Thought I would have a go.

**scumdog** · 28th February 2007, 09:16

Originally Posted by Mr Merde

I am hoping for a little advice from one of you out there in cyberland.

I am trying to load for a Winchester 94 in 30-30. 20" barrel

Accuracy at 250-300 meters is what I am looking for with velocity not much more than about 1700fps.

I think you're expecting a bit much from the 30-30 in a '94 with a 20" barrel,
even with a scope you probably won't get that kind of accuracy.

(Unless you only hope to hit the bottom of a 44-gallon drum at that range!!!)

**Mr Merde** · 28th February 2007, 09:33

Originally Posted by scumdog

I think you're expecting a bit much from the 30-30 in a '94 with a 20" barrel,
even with a scope you probably won't get that kind of accuracy.

(Unless you only hope to hit the bottom of a 44-gallon drum at that range!!!)

All I am looking for it to hit a piece of steel plate approximately 2' x 2' with Kentucky windage

Accuracy was the wrong word to use I suppose.

Just saw an ad for a Contender pistol in the same caliber, with a 10 inch barrel $850 ono . Mmmmmmmm Could be real fun firing that one.

**Wolf** · 28th February 2007, 10:18

Originally Posted by Mr Merde

Just saw an ad for a Contender pistol in the same caliber, with a 10 inch barrel $850 ono . Mmmmmmmm Could be real fun firing that one.

That's the way to do it! Chamber a pistol for the rifle round, not chamber a rifle for the pistol round (like Winchester did with the .44-40...)

**Mr Merde** · 28th February 2007, 10:22

Originally Posted by Wolf

That's the way to do it! Chamber a pistol for the rifle round, not chamber a rifle for the pistol round (like Winchester did with the .44-40...)

I have fired pistols (single shot) chambered for such rounds as .308 and 45-70. After a string of 10 of these you certainly know what recoil is and hopefully how to control it.

**ghost** · 28th February 2007, 10:22

Originally Posted by Mr Merde

Slight change of subject from shotguns or maybe not just an related theme.

How many of you reload your own ammunition?

What calibers do you load for?

What equipment do you have?

I'll start.

I reload for 9mm , .44 Special, .44 Magnum, .38 spl, .357 magnum, .223, 30-30, 45-70, .30 Carbine, .308, 7mmTCU, 12 guage.

What do I have?

Dies for each of these calibers.

Scales,

Lee Turret press.

Case care products,

Tumblers.

Lead melting pots, moulds etc.

Every month more get added to.

Have to balance shooting equipment with bike gear.

How long have I been reloading? About 24 years.

Why? For relaxation, because its interesting to me and becuasee its cheaper. I find I can tailor the rounds for each rifle/pistol and by doing so can get better results.

As an example .44 Mag box of 50 costs about $60.
I can make the same 50 rounds to much higher tolerances for about $10 or less.

Even when you amortise in the cost of the equipment it works out much cheaper in the long run.

SOme calibers are cheaper to buy. 12 guage is cheaper to but than make but I enjoy making these so I will continue.

I have a head full of balistics and such from all these years but still get excited when I create a round that groups as light as I can make it.

Post your experiences, questions, stories. Its all shooting and firearms related so enjoy.

I wanna be like you when I grow up.........

**Mr Merde** · 28th February 2007, 10:36

Originally Posted by ghost

I wanna be like you when I grow up.........

Like all hobies and the like, things just accumulate. You start on one thing and get sidetracked to other aspects.

You dont want to be like me, old, crabbie, obnoxious and intolerant.