The firearm thread

**Indiana_Jones** · 11th May 2009, 17:58

Originally Posted by renegade master

nah man the only way to solve this one is to ban semi automatics.

of course! what was I thinking

problem is people have no idea what a semi-automatic is....

They hear automatic and they think it's a fucking machine gun

I mean its not like a lever action or bolt is just as fast in the right hands

-Indy

**Mumbles** · 11th May 2009, 20:25

I can fire my old lee enfield 303 just as fast (ok maybe not that fast) as my old trusted SLR. many a time had someone ask to see my semi and rub their head when they see the bolt

**Indiana_Jones** · 11th May 2009, 20:51

Here's the new toy

-Indy

**Swoop** · 12th May 2009, 09:06

There is another silly poll on the NZ Herald website regarding guns.
"What should be licenced, the gun or the person"?

Another kneejerk reaction.

I hope Pistol NZ rethinks its stance, of withdrawing from funding COLFO.

**Mr Merde** · 12th May 2009, 11:24

Originally Posted by Indiana_Jones

of course! what was I thinking

problem is people have no idea what a semi-automatic is....

...

There is a female polititian in Aussie who was trying to get side by side shotguns banned.

Her reasoning was that as soon as you had fired the first barrel the second was " AUTOMATICALLY READY" to be fired by pulling the other trigger therefore it was an AUTOMATIC firearm.

Never underestimate the deviousness of the anti's

**Wolf** · 12th May 2009, 13:05

Originally Posted by Mr Merde

There is a female polititian in Aussie who was trying to get side by side shotguns banned.

Her reasoning was that as soon as you had fired the first barrel the second was " AUTOMATICALLY READY" to be fired by pulling the other trigger therefore it was an AUTOMATIC firearm.

Never underestimate the deviousness of the anti's

silly slut needs to buy a dictionary - and then find someone to read bits of it to her

**ManDownUnder** · 12th May 2009, 14:31

Originally Posted by Wolf

silly slut needs to buy a dictionary - and then find someone to read bits of it to her

So using that login my bolt actions are all fully auto... as soon as I have it loaded? Damn... I need an E cat...

**Mr Merde** · 12th May 2009, 15:07

Any one remeber "Fred Dagg"

Remember his gumboot song?

Remember what you might get if you didnt keep your feet in them?

Well I havent got the flu.................

**Wolf** · 12th May 2009, 15:30

Originally Posted by Mr Merde

Any one remeber "Fred Dagg"

Remember his gumboot song?

Remember what you might get if you didnt keep your feet in them?

Well I havent got the flu.................

pleurisy!

Bummer

**The Pastor** · 12th May 2009, 17:23

Where is the link to the poll on the herald website? Cant find it.

I was talking about this to a friend who has no interest whatso ever in guns.

He thought every gun should be registered. I asked him why, he said it would stop me (being a firearm license holder) selling my rifle illegally.

I replied if I was the kind of person who would sell a fire arm illegally why would I bother about this new law, and that the only out come would be general cost increases for the law abiding citizen (which btw im fed up with getting ducked in the arse by the government).

He replied - "Costs should go up, shooting/hunting is only for sport."

There is no hope!

**Indiana_Jones** · 12th May 2009, 17:30

Well on the 2 pages of "your views" on the herald site only one person was wanting more control.

The problem with this case is that the current laws didn't cause the problem.

This guy had had a lifetime licence, which of cause was taken away from the public in 92' and was given a 10 year grace period to get new licences and/or to sell on their weapons.

He kept his guns, and the cops didn't take them off him. So in that regard perhaps there has been a failing, but that has nothing to do with the current licencing laws.

-Indy

**Indiana_Jones** · 12th May 2009, 17:32

In other news I grabbed a snap cap on the way home to try the new BSA with.

Seems to be in good working order. Will have to make my way to the range on Thursday to give it a real test.

The trigger is light as fuck lol. Might adjust it to be a little more heavy

Also I have all the sight inserts to go with her so I might have a play with them too

-Indy

**Swoop** · 12th May 2009, 18:34

Originally Posted by Indiana_Jones

The problem with this case is that the current laws didn't cause the problem.

This guy had had a lifetime licence, which of cause was taken away from the public in 92'...

Quite interesting that this person was "known" to police, yet they failed to match up the fact that his licence had expired and therefore been revoked. I read today that he had a "C" endorsement as well...

**Mr Merde** · 13th May 2009, 12:13

Erma has released a document with their decisions

They recommend that the ammount of powder, both smokeless and black, if held in quantities of less than 15kg do not need a CSL to buy or purchase.

This is down from the original 50kg

They also reccomend that you have to show a firearms licence to purchase powder for firearms.

While no bother to us as shooters this is a change as previously you didnt have to do so.

So the police have made inroads into our sport. Not as great as they would have liked but still it has limited some people. Some will say that these changes are minor but how many minor changes does it take to restrict something to a major extent.

What really worries me is how these changes were implemented. Not through the rule of law and parliament but through beaurocratic processes and seripticious methods. How easy it is to circumvent the letter of the law in the name of "whats good for us", in someone elses opinion.

Divide and conquer.

Watch the powers that be, chip away at our legal rights through these means and how long will it take for those rights to be practically useless.?

Chris