View Poll Results: Which firearm types do you own?

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  • Shotgun (single, double, pump, lever, bolt)

    291 31.91%
  • Shotgun Auto (non MSSA)

    96 10.53%
  • Rifle (single, double, pump, lever, bolt)

    408 44.74%
  • Rifle Auto (non MSSA)

    177 19.41%
  • MSSA

    66 7.24%
  • Pistol

    78 8.55%
  • Black powder (rifle, pistol, shotgun)

    35 3.84%
  • Air/Gas (pistol, rifle)

    313 34.32%
  • un-armed

    305 33.44%
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  1. #2956
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    Sporting' guns now classified military

    I found this this morning while looking at the Auckland Herald on line , I'm not worried as i got my "E" but would not be happy if i had a few of these and only a "A".
    Link here http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10579653

    Thousands of gun owners will be affected by a decision to reclassify many weapons as military-style semi-automatics.

    The guns involved were previously defined as "sporting configuration" and owners did not need to notify police of the model of each gun they owned, as is required of owners of military-style semi-automatics.

    The reclassification focuses on guns that have free-standing pistol grips, enabling the firearm to be used as an assault weapon.

    Police superintendent Tony McLeod said he did not know how many owners and guns were affected, but expected it to run into the thousands.

    New Zealand has more than 200,000 licensed firearm owners but there is no way of knowing how many guns they have because of a decision in 1982 to abandon a system of licensing each gun in favour of licensing gun owners.

    Owners of military-style semi-automatics undergo more stringent vetting than for standard A-class endorsed licences, and are required to have a more expensive and secure safe for their weapons.

    Mr McLeod said the reclassification was not an attempt to create a firearms registration system by default, but better tracking of these types of weapons may be a result.

    Crown Law is understood to have been consulted during the reclassification process, part of which came into effect on June 9.

    Those buying these guns now need to have the tougher E-class endorsed licence, obtain a permit to buy and advise police of the make and model.

    Police had yet to decide how best to compel existing owners of these guns to comply, though there was likely to be a period of grace before owners faced the possibility of being fined.

    Mr McLeod said it was "a definite risk" that some owners may not come forward because of the higher cost of the E-class licence.

    The owner of internet gun auction site GunStuff, Mark Fogarin, said the reclassification was "causing much confusion and frustration throughout New Zealand's firearms community".

    The change could cost some owners about $1000 for upgrading their licences and safety equipment.

    Mr Fogarin said the change targeted licensed gun owners rather than criminals and would have no effect on people such as Jan Molenaar, who shot dead police officer Len Snee and injured three other men in Napier last month.

    Molenaar's gun licence had lapsed, he was unfit to hold a licence and yet had an arsenal of 18 guns including military-style semi-automatics.

    Police have traced three of the weapons to burglaries of licensed gun owners' premises.

    Mr Fogarin said the flaw in that tragedy was that no check was made after Molenaar's licence expired to ensure he no longer had guns.

    Mr McLeod said cases such as that of Coromandel Peninsula collector John Mabey added to the debate, but were not the reason for the change.

    Mabey reported 132 guns stolen but later admitted selling 30 restricted firearms to unlicensed people and was sentenced to 21 months' jail. He is defending charges of having made a false burglary complaint.

    Several weapons from his collection have turned up in criminal hands. One was used to shoot at police and another was believed to have been used in a fatal shooting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mumbles View Post
    I found this this morning while looking at the Auckland Herald on line , I'm not worried as i got my "E" but would not be happy if i had a few of these and only a "A".
    Link here http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10579653

    Thousands of gun owners will be affected by a decision to reclassify many weapons as military-style semi-automatics.

    The guns involved were previously defined as "sporting configuration" and owners did not need to notify police of the model of each gun they owned, as is required of owners of military-style semi-automatics.

    The reclassification focuses on guns that have free-standing pistol grips, enabling the firearm to be used as an assault weapon.

    .

    Just what I said a few posts ago.....on page 191 of this thread.

    A bit over the top imho.
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    I struggle to see the actual difference a free standing pistol grip makes in the real world?

    What would a criminal gain using a rifle with a free standing pistol grip vs a standard stock? It could be the same receiver and barrel, with the same accuracy and rate of fire...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sAsLEX View Post
    I struggle to see the actual difference a free standing pistol grip makes in the real world?

    What would a criminal gain using a rifle with a free standing pistol grip vs a standard stock? It could be the same receiver and barrel, with the same accuracy and rate of fire...
    Cos as usual dumb-arsed politicians never thought it through.

    Just glad none of them ever fly a plane I was a passenger in.
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    Is there any real diference between a tactical grip like you can buy, which is basically a pistol grip with a bit of plastic connecting the bottom to the stock compared to a free standing pistol grip? Sounds stupid. Anyway, anyone answer my earlyer Q?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    Just what I said a few posts ago.....on page 191 of this thread.

    A bit over the top imho.

    Another fucking kneejerk reaction by our lords and masters.

    200,000 gunowners and we just bend over and take it up the shitter.

    We are one of the most lawabiding groups in society and one of the easiuest to prey upon.
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    If you want to hunt on D.O.C. land you'll need a permit. Doesn't cost anything, pick one uo from your local Dept of Conservation. Valid for 3 months from memory. Invest in a Topo map of the area you're going to hunt.
    If you join your local deerstalkers they probably have organised hunts.
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    Didn't you know having a pistol grip makes you gun way more powerful aye.

    it's like NOS for bullets.

    Fucking retarded politics with BS feel-good homo knee-jerk make the stupid public happy shit.

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    so whats actually changed? your no longer allowed the pistol grip with the connecting rod to the stock?
    Then I could get a Kb Tshirt, move to Timaru and become a full time crossdressing faggot

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    Quote Originally Posted by renegade master View Post
    so whats actually changed? your no longer allowed the pistol grip with the connecting rod to the stock?
    Prezactly
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    What about thumbhole stocks, are they affected?
    Nice of them to tell us - are we supposed to just find out by the somehow method?
    I could be breaking the law and not even know it
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    Quote Originally Posted by crash harry View Post
    What about thumbhole stocks, are they affected?
    Nice of them to tell us - are we supposed to just find out by the somehow method?
    I could be breaking the law and not even know it
    No worries about thumbhole stocks - some really opened up thumbholes may be crossing the line though.....but remember it only applies to semi-autos though. (before some of you start flappin')
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    Quote Originally Posted by frogfeaturesFZR View Post
    If you want to hunt on D.O.C. land you'll need a permit. Doesn't cost anything, pick one uo from your local Dept of Conservation. Valid for 3 months from memory. Invest in a Topo map of the area you're going to hunt.
    If you join your local deerstalkers they probably have organised hunts.
    Is it really necessary to go on group hunts, rather than just by yourself or with another person?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wbks View Post
    Is it really necessary to go on group hunts, rather than just by yourself or with another person?
    companys better, learn quicker.

    noiser in the bush tho
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    Quote Originally Posted by wbks View Post
    Is it really necessary to go on group hunts, rather than just by yourself or with another person?
    If you are going out into the bush hunting for deer etc you would be stupid to go by yourself.

    There is nothing in NZ's bush that will kill you except the bush itself.

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