The firearm thread

**Wolf** · 6th July 2009, 13:32

Originally Posted by Indiana_Jones

wait wait guys....

did the plank of would have a 'free-standing' pistol grip?!

-Indy

A bit of wood with a free-standing grip is called a PR24 Police Baton...

http://www.legear.com.au/Monadnock-P...ock-md1000.htm

**ManDownUnder** · 6th July 2009, 15:21

Originally Posted by Wolf

BAN ALL PLANKS OF WOOD.

Dangerous weapons. Always been suspicious of how builders stockpile the stuff...

Oh now you're being silly. Simply license the purchase and use of wood - let's say anything over 762mm in length could be a plank, and anything shorter could be a chunk.

Chunks should only allowed to be used at certified and approved ranges... they can be easily concealed and thrown without warning to endanger innocent people or property...

**Wolf** · 6th July 2009, 15:47

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

Oh now you're being silly. Simply license the purchase and use of wood - let's say anything over 762mm in length could be a plank, and anything shorter could be a chunk.

Chunks should only allowed to be used at certified and approved ranges... they can be easily concealed and thrown without warning to endanger innocent people or property...

+1
Brilliant.

**Mr Merde** · 6th July 2009, 15:55

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

Oh now you're being silly. Simply license the purchase and use of wood - let's say anything over 762mm in length could be a plank, and anything shorter could be a chunk.

Chunks should only allowed to be used at certified and approved ranges... they can be easily concealed and thrown without warning to endanger innocent people or property...

A logical thinker.

This is why you are able to work from home now.

Your dedication to the job in hand and the unique spin on old problems you manage to devise.

Chris

**Swoop** · 6th July 2009, 16:22

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

Oh now you're being silly. Simply license the purchase and use of wood - let's say anything over 762mm in length could be a plank, and anything shorter could be a chunk....

So... Anything shorter than 7.62mm would constitute a "sawn-off"?

**ManDownUnder** · 6th July 2009, 16:38

Originally Posted by Swoop

So... Anything shorter than 7.62mm would constitute a "sawn-off"?

LOL I like it!

Back to the topic at hand... Mr Man by Te Waikato river... Taser the fucker. All this hoo ha about well being and getting hurt and calling the appropriate people to counsel him

Zap him - make him do the spasm dance on the river bank, cuff him, stuff him into the fuzzmobile... and THEN counsel him. No -one hurt, not too many extras needed to solve the problem.

Or maybe the dog handler gets a call and Mr Man get the choice - the dog or the eels. His choice, his responsibility

**wbks** · 6th July 2009, 16:46

In all seriousness, why should pistols only be allowed use at a "special" range? Does the barrel explode when you fire it at a normal range?... The range and power of a pistol is a lot less than most rifles, so I can't see any reason it would be unsafe? And I'm guessing that what man downunder said has something to do with why pistols are regulated... So why is it any different restricting it to specific shooting ranges? I'm pretty sure if I was going to shoot someone with my pistol after concealing it in my jacket I wouldn't think "fuck, this isn't a B cat. approved range!"

**Drunken Monkey** · 6th July 2009, 17:21

It's just THE MAN trying to keep you down, brother.

**jono035** · 6th July 2009, 18:08

Originally Posted by wbks

In all seriousness, why should pistols only be allowed use at a "special" range? Does the barrel explode when you fire it at a normal range?... The range and power of a pistol is a lot less than most rifles, so I can't see any reason it would be unsafe? And I'm guessing that what man downunder said has something to do with why pistols are regulated... So why is it any different restricting it to specific shooting ranges? I'm pretty sure if I was going to shoot someone with my pistol after concealing it in my jacket I wouldn't think "fuck, this isn't a B cat. approved range!"

I think it's more to do with making it so you've got no excuse to have the pistol anywhere but a small number of places... Basically if you've got it in your car and aren't halfway between your home and the gun range then the police can start asking tricky questions... Also you're only allowed to fire the weapon under the supervision of a 'qualified' range officer (a single evening course), so if you want to fire it alone you need your RO qualification.

None of this would stop someone who is determined to shoot someone else, but it sure as hell stops me thinking about ever taking my guns over to a friends place to show them off or taking them out to a patch of paddock/bush somewhere to shoot some cans with them. Basically if you get caught, you lose em.

Not that I wouldn't dearly love to be able to wander out into a paddock somewhere and let rip at some nasty menacing cans and possibly a watermelon or 2

**wbks** · 6th July 2009, 18:16

Originally Posted by jono035

I think it's more to do with making it so you've got no excuse to have the pistol anywhere but a small number of places... Basically if you've got it in your car and aren't halfway between your home and the gun range then the police can start asking tricky questions... Also you're only allowed to fire the weapon under the supervision of a 'qualified' range officer (a single evening course), so if you want to fire it alone you need your RO qualification.

None of this would stop someone who is determined to shoot someone else, but it sure as hell stops me thinking about ever taking my guns over to a friends place to show them off or taking them out to a patch of paddock/bush somewhere to shoot some cans with them. Basically if you get caught, you lose em.

Not that I wouldn't dearly love to be able to wander out into a paddock somewhere and let rip at some nasty menacing cans and possibly a watermelon or 2

So basically like I said, it won't stop someone shooting someone else with a pistol but it will stop use of it in a field where it is no different to a rifle... Though I guess if someone was caught carrying one in their car obviously with some bad intentions you could take it off them.

**jono035** · 6th July 2009, 18:26

Originally Posted by wbks

So basically like I said, it won't stop someone shooting someone else with a pistol but it will stop use of it in a field where it is no different to a rifle... Though I guess if someone was caught carrying one in their car obviously with some bad intentions you could take it off them.

Well a pistol is still a HELL of a lot more dangerous than a rifle in a lot of cases, you have to be so much more aware of barrel direction and weapon state. It's a lot easier to keep on top of this in a formal range setting when you're obeying firing line commands, have someone else checking the guns and have barriers up to discourage people turning while holding the weapons.

That's not to say that a rifle is not dangerous, it's just that different aspects of it are, which are often easier to manage, especially if you're out in the middle of nowhere.

The length of the barrel and compactness of a smallish semi-auto make it insanely easy to do something incredibly stupid, I've seen quite a few people who I'm sure if not restrained or warned by an observant RO would have turned and had a loaded weapon pointed towards others on the range or at themselves.