The firearm thread

[ManDownUnder]

ok so Ruben and his mate Jarron and hanging out looking a bit bored this afternoon and the HMR hasn't made any loud noises for a while so me thinks... the girls are out... there's a stack of phone books without enough holes in em... I wonder what we could possibly do to fix those little problems...

So the lads had a crack with the .17 cal. All lots of fun really.

.17 cal 17gr hollow point doesn't quite make it through 3 Auckland phone books (a complete set of 2 yellow pages and one white pages). Fun to recover the jacket after it's flipped itself inside out and the blob of lead too - surrounded by masses of finely shredded paper.

Highly recommended.

Next stop... bunny busting I reckon.

Chris - I hold you personally responsible.

[Indiana_Jones]

Chris - I hold you personally responsible.

That's what I always do, seems to work for me

-Indy

[ManDownUnder]

That's what I always do, seems to work for me

-Indy

Yup - he motivated me to motivate my little man... the way it ought to be.

Besides - the HMR's a wee cracker of a rifle. Deceptively lethal. Bit of a bang but absolutely no kick

[Mr Merde]

Guilty as charged !!

Yes m'lud I puts me 'and up to this'un

I've done me bit for the future of the sport I hold so close and encouraged the next generation to at least try shooting.

Broad sholdas I 'as.

[KREWZR]

Website recently updated... dont worry I got you covered but hell I could use some support guys?

http://frommycolddeadhand.blogspot.com/

Cheers
R
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[jono035]

Website recently updated... dont worry I got you covered but hell I could use some support guys?

http://frommycolddeadhand.blogspot.com/

Cheers
R
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Your link is broken there mate, it should be:

http://frommycolddeadhand.blogspot.com

All shooters should be worried about the re-classification of weapons without any form of submissions process or consultation. Make some noise to your MPs etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came...

[KREWZR]

Doph.. fixed now !

[ManDownUnder]

Making your own projectiles...

Segment from 8:45 through 12:45. Looks like fun.

Does anyone recognise the tool he's using? I.e. brand?

[Mr Merde]

Making your own projectiles...

Segment from 8:45 through 12:45. Looks like fun.

Does anyone recognise the tool he's using? I.e. brand?

On dial up this is taking forever to dl

I'll have a look at work tomorrow.

[ManDownUnder]

On dial up this is taking forever to dl

I'll have a look at work tomorrow.

Aaaa good point - yes download warning - it's HUGE. The tool doesn't look like the one you told me about Chris although it might just be an older one?

Looks like a good series though - Thursday nights on Maori TV. 9:30 I think it is.

[jono035]

Yeah, that does look pretty good actually.

That bullet making process is interesting, he's casting the lead cores and then swaging them into de-rimmed .22LR cases for the jackets... Interesting process...

http://www.shootingtimes.com/ammunit...3short_200711/ (no videos, might be a bit easier on your net connection, Chris)

That article mentions rough-cutting lead-wire to get the core blanks... Might be easier...

Looking at the amount of .22lr brass that gets left over after a night at CSI has always made then think there has to be something they're useful for. I've cut a few up and used them for shim material, but apart from that...

[jono035]

Corbin makes the kit that the 'Rabbit Guy' was using

http://www.corbins.com/prrfjm.htm

Says that they provide dies for making bullets from .22LR casings and range-recovered lead or soft-lead wheel weights.

Core Mould
Core Seat Die
Point Form Die

Rimfire Jacket Maker

Says that you can make jackets for 6mm, .223, .224 with the 2 different versions of this kit or .204, .172, .142 with extra additional dies and steps in the process...

Thanks for that link MDU, that is a damn cool piece of gear!

[Mr Merde]

I have been thinking about this gear for quite a while now.

The beauty of swagging is that the lead is not hot. Very consistant results, no air pockets in the bullet.. the list goes on.

No burn danger, very repeatable, bulltet design within calibres ios a the change of a top die.

All that has been stopping me is the price.

[jono035]

Chris:

So for swaging you wouldn't be casting blanks, just using trimmed pieces of stock or something? What do you use for lead stock currently?

I've seen a couple of kits for swaging the heads of .22LR bullets for accuracy purposes, but given that you're only controlling 1 of many different variables, getting better quality .22LR ammo is probably a better step.

[Mr Merde]

He is swagging with Corbon swagging dies in an RCBS press by the looks of it

The reloading kit is

a Dillon press, 1050 (?) by the looks of it

A mate of mine has two of these presses and a 550 set up in his worksop

The 1050 is capable of loading about 1000 rounds an hour and can be automated.

MDU, doesnt swaging look cool.

You can play around with bullet weights, different bases, different tips etc, you can even get tools to put the cannalure on the bullet.

See why I talk about it so much

Chris