The firearm thread

[Mr Merde]

I have to thank you all for responding to the "call".

I felt like I was drowning. I seemed tpo be the only one incensed by this programme enoiugh to lay a complaint.

I have had two responses now. TVNZ and BSA, both acknowledging my complaint. TVNZ now has 20 days to make a response.

For too long we have suffered in silence. We, as responsible firearms owners, have always kept a low profile. We have kept our sport quiet like some dirty little family secret. I'm proud to enjoy the shooting sports. I'll tell anyone and I always invite them to give it a go. I have no problem with anyone who tries something and then decides its not for them. Thats called an informed decision and woorthy of respect.

I started another thread. Part Troll and very tongue in cheek. This threead likened mbike ownership to the restrictions on firearms. A few people realised iut was a troll but still responded. I basically did this to get some sort of debate going and also to raise peoples awareness of whatr we actually have to go through in obeying the law with regards to our particular sport.

I've had a few PM's and rep points but all in all I feel it served its purpose.

Thanks again.

Chris


PS MDU, trying to think of a new byline, something along the lines of "soft and sensitive" I like to make people smile.

Malicious little Gnome. I was called that earlier this week. Sounds good. Changing nowb

[jono035]

I have to thank you all for responding to the "call".

I felt like I was drowning. I seemed tpo be the only one incensed by this programme enoiugh to lay a complaint.

I have had two responses now. TVNZ and BSA, both acknowledging my complaint. TVNZ now has 20 days to make a response.

For too long we have suffered in silence. We, as responsible firearms owners, have always kept a low profile. We have kept our sport quiet like some dirty little family secret. I'm proud to enjoy the shooting sports. I'll tell anyone and I always invite them to give it a go. I have no problem with anyone who tries something and then decides its not for them. Thats called an informed decision and woorthy of respect.

I started another thread. Part Troll and very tongue in cheek. This threead likened mbike ownership to the restrictions on firearms. A few people realised iut was a troll but still responded. I basically did this to get some sort of debate going and also to raise peoples awareness of whatr we actually have to go through in obeying the law with regards to our particular sport.

I've had a few PM's and rep points but all in all I feel it served its purpose.

Thanks again.

Chris


PS MDU, trying to think of a new byline, something along the lines of "soft and sensitive" I like to make people smile.

Malicious little Gnome. I was called that earlier this week. Sounds good. Changing nowb

You were called a malicious little gnome?? holy hell...

My problem in that case is that I don't watch TV at all, so I'm completely oblivious to anything of that nature that is shown. I'm always up for a good argument though, but I do get annoyed when people I'm arguing with start using some of the tactics that were used in that thread. False comparisons, straw man arguments and circular logic.

[Delerium]

I have to thank you all for responding to the "call".

I felt like I was drowning. I seemed tpo be the only one incensed by this programme enoiugh to lay a complaint.

I have had two responses now. TVNZ and BSA, both acknowledging my complaint. TVNZ now has 20 days to make a response.

For too long we have suffered in silence. We, as responsible firearms owners, have always kept a low profile. We have kept our sport quiet like some dirty little family secret. I'm proud to enjoy the shooting sports. I'll tell anyone and I always invite them to give it a go. I have no problem with anyone who tries something and then decides its not for them. Thats called an informed decision and woorthy of respect.

I started another thread. Part Troll and very tongue in cheek. This threead likened mbike ownership to the restrictions on firearms. A few people realised iut was a troll but still responded. I basically did this to get some sort of debate going and also to raise peoples awareness of whatr we actually have to go through in obeying the law with regards to our particular sport.

I've had a few PM's and rep points but all in all I feel it served its purpose.

Thanks again.

Chris


PS MDU, trying to think of a new byline, something along the lines of "soft and sensitive" I like to make people smile.

Malicious little Gnome. I was called that earlier this week. Sounds good. Changing nowb

Thats just it, people dont realise how draconian the restrictions they think are a good idea untill it is placed on something THEY value.. then it starts to dawn on them.

[wbks]

Hey guys, I'm going to go into the police station tomorrow and apply for my license. On Police.govt.nz it says you will need to pass a multi-choice test and attend a lecture. Does that mean I can expect to have to do this test the day I go in there, or is that at a later date? Just asking because I won't have a lot of time to read the arms code I just printed off before then.

[Indiana_Jones]

Hey guys, I'm going to go into the police station tomorrow and apply for my license. On Police.govt.nz it says you will need to pass a multi-choice test and attend a lecture. Does that mean I can expect to have to do this test the day I go in there, or is that at a later date? Just asking because I won't have a lot of time to read the arms code I just printed off before then.

When you go into the cop-shop to apply for your licence all you need is your references contact details, Application fee and your passport style photos

Noramlly they interview you then and there and do your background check etc

Then they'll inspect your storage and interview your refences in person.

You'll then attend a safety course (just about 2 hours), run over the basics, sit a test, common sense stuff really.

Pass the test, they'll let the cops know and providing your refences etc all check out you'll be away laughing

Hope this helps, feel free to ask anything else

-Indy

[jono035]

Hey guys, I'm going to go into the police station tomorrow and apply for my license. On Police.govt.nz it says you will need to pass a multi-choice test and attend a lecture. Does that mean I can expect to have to do this test the day I go in there, or is that at a later date? Just asking because I won't have a lot of time to read the arms code I just printed off before then.

Nope sorry bud. The process is as follows:

Get form from cops.
Pay license cost at post office.
Give form back to cops.
Wait.
Cops contact you and tell you when the next test is. It will be in the form of a 1-hour (ish) talk with basic demonstrations of gun safety and a bit of discussion, followed by an easy multi-choice test. Reading the arms code a couple of times through makes this totally trivial.
Wait.
(Good time to make sure your storage is up to snuff)
Wait.
Cops contact you and organise an interview with you and your references. They prefer references that they can hit at the same time, preferably non-related people who are living with you. I used my girlfriend and flatmate. They will also check out your storage setup.
Wait.
License arrives in the mail.

Edit: Also, when you're in the cop shop, grab a proper copy of the Arms Code and keep it around. I might start carrying one in the backpack I use for carting my ammo/spotlights/spare mags/cleaning stuff etc. in. I do keep one in the drawer of my desk for referring to.

[jono035]

When you...

3 minutes too late *mutter*

Edit: Wait a sec, did they interview you before the firearms test thingame? I can't actually remember what order mine happened in to be honest...

[jono035]

Was just reading a news article from this time last year. Apparently firearms license applications were skyrocketing, violent crime involving firearms was holding steady at around 650 incidents recorded per year and firearms involvement in crimes had slipped from 1.7% to 1.3%...

Wait a sec, what the hell did I just spend the entire weekend arguing about?!

[wbks]

Glad I know now, but I just realised that I've got a defensive driving course and my full license test at the end of the month so I might be a bit stuck for money depending on the cost of the license. How much is it?

[Indiana_Jones]

Glad I know now, but I just realised that I've got a defensive driving course and my full license test at the end of the month so I might be a bit stuck for money depending on the cost of the license. How much is it?

Just under $125

-Indy

[jono035]

Glad I know now, but I just realised that I've got a defensive driving course and my full license test at the end of the month so I might be a bit stuck for money depending on the cost of the license. How much is it?

A hundred and something. Gotta pay before you can submit the license. I'd say get the license started, it isn't a quick process all up and the sooner you get it submitted, the less likely you are to miss out on one of the testing evenings like I did (6 weeks wait straight off the bat)

Edit: And Indy beats me to it again...

[wbks]

I'll be spending just under half a K on qualifications in one month! What about a gun cabinet? Which I'm assuming is the only security you need for A-Cat? I should probably get one before I even apply incase they end up getting around to checking my security before I have one

[jono035]

I'll be spending just under half a K on qualifications in one month! What about a gun cabinet? Which I'm assuming is the only security you need for A-Cat? I should probably get one before I even apply incase they end up getting around to checking my security before I have one

You can use a locked cupboard if you have one available, probably needs to be reasonably sturdy though. I have seen ones made out of nailed/glued together chipboard with a hasp and padlock on the front that were apparently ok.

Failing that, the one that I bought was from gun-city I think, $40. Nothing more than a plate that gets screwed to the wall with a few screw holes in, a metal hoop for the barrels to go through and a pin to go through the trigger guards. Finish it off with a padlock through the end of the pin and that's the setup.

4 woodscrews into the wall (making sure to hit something with a bit of strength) and you're set.

Edit: And $500 per month on qualifications... That's what it's costing me to do my masters in course fees alone, never mind still having to live/eat/ride/shoot No way around it though unfortunately, you've gotta pay it sooner or later if you want the license

http://www.guncity.co.nz/racks-xidg11754.html I have the 4 gun one of these. Seems to work well, I just wrapped something soft over the bottom of the hoop to stop it scuffing up my barrels though.

[wbks]

Might weld something up, then. If glued up boxes are fine, a welded box long enough for most rifles, with one padlocked opening end should be fine! I'll probably add some bolt's to bolt it into the wall. Might as well make sure no one carries it off!

[jono035]

Might weld something up, then. If glued up boxes are fine, a welded box long enough for most rifles, with one padlocked opening end should be fine! I'll probably add some bolt's to bolt it into the wall. Might as well make sure no one carries it off!

It is equally important that they can't take it away as it is that they can't get into it :P A few woodscrews into the wall are apparently sufficient though (going by how mine is installed).

Maybe think about making up one of those racks like guncity has rather than welding up an entire box?