View Poll Results: Which firearm types do you own?

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  • Shotgun (single, double, pump, lever, bolt)

    291 31.91%
  • Shotgun Auto (non MSSA)

    96 10.53%
  • Rifle (single, double, pump, lever, bolt)

    408 44.74%
  • Rifle Auto (non MSSA)

    177 19.41%
  • MSSA

    66 7.24%
  • Pistol

    78 8.55%
  • Black powder (rifle, pistol, shotgun)

    35 3.84%
  • Air/Gas (pistol, rifle)

    313 34.32%
  • un-armed

    305 33.44%
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  1. #3271
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    Quote Originally Posted by jono035 View Post
    Yep, "(d) a military pattern free-standing pistol grip:" is verbatim
    Military pattern means it must of been designed for a military weapon.

    This is verbose but please bear with me….

    I have been cruising around some of the forums and there still seems to be a lot of misunderstanding about the term “military pattern free standing pistol grip”. One entry I saw referred to a “military style free standing pistol grip.” Most people seem to think that’s its easier to understand “free-standing” and view “military pattern” as being an obscure loose term for military style or appearance… something that is subject to interpretation. This is not at all correct and factually it is probably easier to define “military pattern” than it is to define “free-standing“. In fact the two terms go together – they are not military pattern – and – or free standing, The term “military pattern free standing pistol grip” does not refer to style or function; it refers to a specific and precise object. You know how the concise military waffle goes… combat sock, foot left, material wool, colour green, 1 of.

    Beginning in the early 1700s, ordnance officials, from their headquarters at the Tower of London, divided the manufacture of firearms into locks, stocks, barrels, ramrods, and furniture—all of which they sought to purchase directly from subcontractors. Since different components for the same weapon were made in different locations, Tower officials oversaw the establishment of "Sealed Patterns" (sample firearms) to serve as exact models for gun makers. An Ordnance Office decree of 1722 led to a "standard army musket." The term military pattern is therefore a prefix to specific item of military equipment. In the case of the musket it was the Long Land Pattern musket. So the Long land was a military pattern firearm, the trigger of a Long Land musket was a military pattern single pull trigger. Now you can see it would not make sense to talk about a military pattern without associating that with something i.e.: a military pattern operational ration pack. Again - the two terms go together – they are not military pattern – and – or free standing,

    For the purposes of the Arms Act 1982 s2, a “military pattern free standing pistol grip” is a free standing pistol grip that has been manufactured to military specification as part of a military pattern firearm. An example of a military pattern free standing pistol grip would be the military pattern A1 or military pattern A2 pistol grip furnishing an M16 military pattern rifle. The ABC company super duper rubber coated sporting free standing pistol grip that was not produced from a military pattern and is not intended for military use, is not a “military pattern” grip; neither is an SL8 stock or any other thumbhole stock, or pistol grip that is not manufactured to a military pattern.

    The Arms Act quite specifically contemplates a pistol grip that is not a “military pattern free standing pistol grip”. If it did intend to restrict all pistol grips then obviously it would state “pistol grip” in the same way as it outright says “flash suppressor” The arms act is quite specific and refers not to any functionality or appearance; it refers to a very specific object. If your firearm is equipped with a pistol grip that is not a military pattern pistol grip of the free-standing variety then your semi-automatic is not currently classified as a military-style semi automatic – PERIOD!

    You should also consider this – Armed forces specify (milspec) their military pattern firearms to comply with laws of international warfare. Do you seriously think the NZ Police can redefine a term that has a specific interpretation under international laws of warfare?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sAsLEX View Post
    Military pattern means it must of been designed for a military weapon.
    I agree, but bear in mind that this is currently only Richard's opinion that this information can be applied in that way. Until someone successfully used that defense in a court then it would be unwise to rely on that info...

    Like I said before, it currently only matters what the police have stated they will find acceptable or not, and there are a lot of stocks that would be legal by the above definition that are illegal according to the montage released by the police.

    Hopefully this will all get sorted out and we can forget about these stupid superficial trvialities...

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    They better take my Martini-Enfield bro, that's an NZ army rifle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indiana_Jones View Post
    They better take my Martini-Enfield bro, that's an NZ army rifle

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    nah they are only worried about rifles accurate over 25m, so all yours are excluded
    Then I could get a Kb Tshirt, move to Timaru and become a full time crossdressing faggot

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    Quote Originally Posted by renegade master View Post
    nah they are only worried about rifles accurate over 25m, so all yours are excluded
    Same with yours, they only worry about working guns

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    hey mines working, apparntly, just waiting on some ammo to test it
    Then I could get a Kb Tshirt, move to Timaru and become a full time crossdressing faggot

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    Quote Originally Posted by renegade master View Post
    hey mines working, apparntly, just waiting on some ammo to test it
    So you have a rifle like me. Stopped making the ammo a long time ago
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Merde View Post
    Its payday today. I havent got a lot spare but I can at least send him a little bit of financial help.

    Anyone else who is vaguely interested in your rights as a shooter being defended should do so also.

    A few dollars from a lot of people helps.
    Correct. I sent my donation through yesterday.
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    This morning I was a little bored with work so I sat down and e-mailed the following shooting groups.

    Urged all of them to support Richard in his endeavours.

    IMAS,
    SSANZ,
    NZ NRA,
    Pistol NZ,
    NZDA,
    Target Shooting NZ,
    and Colfo

    Brought the website to their attention and mentioned it was disgracefull that overseas groups show their support whilst in this land of sheep our governing bodies keep their heads down low out of fear.

    Also e-mailed Ministry of Defense asking for the specifications of a "milirtary firearm" and if this was public information.

    Richard I hope they come crawling out of the woodwork.

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    I would truly hope that COLFO are assisting in any way possible.
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    sweet! this week my bank balance is finally out of the red!

    Made a small deposit for the cause!
    Then I could get a Kb Tshirt, move to Timaru and become a full time crossdressing faggot

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    Reply from IMAS
    as below.

    "Hi Chris,
    Thanks for your email. The website users are aware of Richards work though the site forum. Hopefully our next branch newsletter will also carry some information as well to members who are not online or who are not already aware.
    Thanks again,
    Wayne"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    I would truly hope that COLFO are assisting in any way possible.
    Just looking at his blog site there is no sign of COLFO etc. I thought I would give them a bit of a wake up.
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    Just received a return message from John Dyer, he is no longer on the SSANZ committee so he has forwarded my e-mail on to the relevant person.

    Good things do happen occasionally.
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    Email jusrt recieved from the Department of Defense re my question as too standards in NZ for Militery Firearms and wether thye are in the "public domain"


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    "Chris I am forwarding your email to the New Zealand Defence Force (NZDF), as they are the appropriate organisation to respond to your request.

    Please be advised the NZDF website contact email address is nzdfwebmaster@nzdf.mil.nz, please email NZDF for future enquiries on this matter.
    • For information regarding NZDF contact:
      New Zealand Defence Force
      Private Bag 39997
      WELLINGTON 5045
      Main Phone: (04) 496 0999
      fficeffice" />>>

    Kind Regards

    cc: NZDF
    nzdfwebmaster@nzdf.mil.nz


    Referred as indicated for NZDF response, thank you."
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