The firearm thread

[Wolf]

"Our biggest bolt gun fires a 3600 grain 95 caliber bullet from a highly modified 20 mm vulcan case"

How the f@#k can this be justified in any way. Thats a 1/2 lb projectile. (approx 1kg)

Im having trouble just trying to visualise this round let alone the rifle that fires it.

I suppose you couldnt claim it as a possum gun then?

Sounds like just the thing for dealing to the fucking mozzies they have out in Te Aroha. They had to give up trying to kill the buggers because the 40mm BOFORS got "costly" to feed. One of them landed at the Te Aroha Aerodrome last week and they put 3000 gallons of av-gas in it before they realised what it was...

Anyway, seriously: Buy the rifle. Just tell the arms officer you want to do a spot of "plinking" in the back yard...

[Mr Merde]

Sounds like a sweet weapon with some serious work done to it.




I'd love a good quality pneumatic air pistol or the time and money to get into rimfire and/or centre-fire pistols just for the consistency without the hassle (my experiences with both piston air rifles and Cat A firearms has taught me I cope better with recoil than piston-judder).

It was a real sweet handgun. All the work was done by a gentleman by the name of Jim Dodd. He was a Springfield armourer and knew his way around these types of pistols.

Havent fired many air pistols but I can sympathise with the judder problems.

Small bore pistol is a real fun way to learn. At the moment my girlfriend is learning to shoot. Started her off on .22 to build confidence. Moved her up the caliber scale to .44 mag. Getting her either .38/.357 revolver or a .32 revolver.

You can pick up a reasonablely priced .22 quite easily here in NZ. The only other costs then are the safe, joining a club and the $200 cost for the B cat to your licence. Might as well get you E cat at the same time for the same $200.

[Wolf]

Small bore pistol is a real fun way to learn. At the moment my girlfriend is learning to shoot. Started her off on .22 to build confidence. Moved her up the caliber scale to .44 mag. Getting her either .38/.357 revolver or a .32 revolver.

Mmmm, the .32 revolver sounds like a great idea. I'm more of a semi-auto kind of bloke but one of the guys at the local club was showing off a nice .32 revolver that fitted my hand like a glove - great balance and weight as well. He reckoned it was a very accurate weapon.

You can pick up a reasonablely priced .22 quite easily here in NZ. The only other costs then are the safe, joining a club and the $200 cost for the B cat to your licence. Might as well get you E cat at the same time for the same $200.

That doesn't sound too foul, cash-wise. Had a bit of a look in the interweb-thingy and the cheapest .22 pitols I found were a couple of Ruger Mk2 semis at around $700.

[Sniper]

Anyway, seriously: Buy the rifle. Just tell the arms officer you want to do a spot of "plinking" in the back yard...

Yea right. That would be hard to justify one you've laid waste to a hectare of land and forced your neighbours to vacate their property under fear of collateral damage

[Mr Merde]

Yea right. That would be hard to justify one you've laid waste to a hectare of land and forced your neighbours to vacate their property under fear of collateral damage

But just imagine the buzz of firing that first ever round !!

.95 caliber 3600 gn projectile 20mm case. Wonder what the velocity is?

[jrandom]

3600 grain... Thats a 1/2 lb projectile. (approx 1kg)

I think you have your conversions back-arse-wards. 3600 grains is 233 grams.

Still ridiculous dimensions for any shoulder-fired cartridge, though.

[Mr Merde]

I think you have your conversions back-arse-wards. 3600 grains is 233 grams.

Still ridiculous dimensions for any shoulder-fired cartridge, though.

there are approx 7100 gns in a lb therefore 3600 gns is approx 1/2 lb

where I messed up was lbs to kilos. I just realised. DUH will I ever go metric?

Just think anout the poor possum on the receiving end !!

[jrandom]

where I messed up was lbs to kilos.

Yeah, I guessed that.

And yes, I pity the possum; at 2500fps, that projectile would have the same kinetic energy as a 1-ton car travelling at 42kph.

Splat.

[Mr Merde]

Just taken a break for 1/2 an hour.

I have been reloading for a couple of hours now.

Need to replenish my concentration.

I spent all yesterday afternoon casting .44 projectiles. I now have 1000 of them, sized and lubed.
Last night I preped all my cases.

300 .44 spl, 300 .44 mag, 100 30-30 and 150 12 guage.

I will have all these reloade by the weekend.

Using a Lee turret press as it gives me a little flexibiltiy as I am loading all but the 30-30 with BP.

The 30-30 I am loading with ADI 2207. 16.5 gns under a 170 gn proj,

The .44spl has 20 gns by volume of BP topped off with semolina for compression the .44 mag has 25 gns by volume of BP with semolina. Shotgun has 65 gns of BP with 1 1/8 oz #7 shot.

Next week I am going to make smoke and live in the 19th century for 5 days. Yeh ha.

Anyone down Carterton way between the 15th-18th March and cares to look in, there is a CAS shoot at the pistol club.

If you get there look me up. I will be shooting in the Frontier Cartridge class (black powder)

[Mr Merde]

Meant to post this last night but reloading took up a lot of my time.

Fired my new .22 semi auto pistol on Sunday afternoon. By new I mean new to me.

Vostok semi.
10 shot mags
threaded for suppressor

tried it suppressed and not.

For an old .22 it supprised the hell out of me.

Accurate and easily to use. points easily.

Suppressed it showed a definite preference for the Aquilla SSS rounds.

All in all a sweet little pistol.

[Wolf]

Meant to post this last night but reloading took up a lot of my time.

Fired my new .22 semi auto pistol on Sunday afternoon. By new I mean new to me.

Vostok semi.
10 shot mags
threaded for suppressor

tried it suppressed and not.

For an old .22 it supprised the hell out of me.

Accurate and easily to use. points easily.

Suppressed it showed a definite preference for the Aquilla SSS rounds.

All in all a sweet little pistol.

Sounds sweet, got a pic you can post?

The club pistol I fired was a long barrelled single shot - practically a bolt action. Lousy pointing on it as it was barrel-heavy and it took some effort in the wrist to bring the barrel up to aim - not conducive to steady aiming. They had a couple of club semis that looked more conventional and looked as if they had a better balance but I never got a chance to try them out.

I've held a Glock and a P99 and I find the grip angle on the Glock is awkward for me - have to tilt my wrist in a way that feels unnatural to line up the sights whereas the P99 and CP99 have a more natural feel - raise my arm with the pistol held comfortably and my wrist in a comfortable position and the sights are aligned perfectly.

The Ruger Mk2 looks like its grip angle is similar to that of a P99 so I may well find it easy to point - don't know for sure without trying, though.

[jrandom]

Ruger Mk2 looks like its grip angle is similar to that of a P99...

The angle is similar to Glocks, too, but a G17 feels worlds different in the hand to a Mk I/II.

Ruger do sell the model 22/45, now, which has the same grip angle and control locations (safety, mag release) as a 1911, for those who want to practice with a target-quality .22 that has the same ergonomics as their primary bullseye or action shooting pistol. I'd quite like to try one of those.

[Swoop]

The club pistol I fired was a long barrelled single shot - practically a bolt action.

Sounds like a Drulov. Used to be popular in the dark ages of NZ pistol shooting.

[Mumbles]

Tried last night to sell my L1A1 on Trademe couldnt tick the little box that said it was a "A" cat as its on my E, so just listed it under Antiques & collectables > Militaria. looked at it this morning had 60 view and 3 on watch list. Came home tonight to find that it had been pulled and following email in my in box
"Your listing for SLR L1A1 7.62 X 54 (308) *THIS IS A E CAT WEAPON* Listing no. 90884724 has been withdrawn.Unfortunately the listing above does not comply with the Trade Me terms and conditions, and the product is not permitted to be sold on Trade Me."

But what I dont get is other SLR's are traded on there all the time, mine looks almost the same just has a 20 round mag and massive price tag of ($3.5k - 4k)

The fact that its a "E" means I cant just sell it to anyone as it Reg to me so need to make sure when sold, it's off to the correct person, the old "A" cat is not reg to the shooter so can go where it likes WTF!!

The only reason I'm selling her as I have to pay for the 2 new front + 1 rear disks new rear tyre and some other misc bike stuff!

I'm torn between the two BIKE GUN

Cool feel better now thanks....

[0arbreaka]

Dont sell it mate, its in brilliant cond. How much you after for it?