The firearm thread

[Wolf]

resembling a plastic raygun from a bad '60s sci-fi TV series.

No offense to the fine design engineers at Steyr, of course.

Same description could apply to the Slap=Happy Lincoln Toys - M16 and variants

I really like my Nagant and my Kar98K. I like to sit and hold them and think of the blood they might have spilled into European mud in the stink and clamour of battle, and the countless hands that have passed across the worn bluing of their receivers over the last 64 years.

Yep, When I had my Mosin-Nagant, I used to muse that it had been fired at, and most likely injured and killed, Germans on the Eastern Front during WWII.

It is also likely my Russian SKS had seen service.

It's an entirely different buzz from holding a factory-new Ruger or Sako. Those are just tools. Fine, modern tools, but they ain't got no soul.

Entirely.

[doc]

I find them real nice to shoot. Very confidence-inducing. The day the fuzzy-wuzzies come over the hill, a FAL will be first to my hand behind the sandbags on the front porch. And they look scary, like a proper weapon, instead of resembling a plastic raygun from a bad '60s sci-fi TV series.

No offense to the fine design engineers at Steyr, of course.



I dunno. I really like my Nagant and my Kar98K. I like to sit and hold them and think of the blood they might have spilled into European mud in the stink and clamour of battle, and the countless hands that have passed across the worn bluing of their receivers over the last 64 years.

It's an entirely different buzz from holding a factory-new Ruger or Sako. Those are just tools. Fine, modern tools, but they ain't got no soul.

Well the ole Lee enfields or even .45/70 Govt do it for me but the ole enfields never became worth that sort of money.

[Wolf]

Well the ole Lee enfields or even .45/70 Govt do it for me but the ole enfields never became worth that sort of money.

Depending on its condition, what version and where it was manufactured, some of the SMLEs can be worth a pretty good amount - especially overseas.

The fact that they were made in fantastic numbers drives the price down and modified ones aren't worth a lot but original condition ones can command more. A mate of mine had a collection of them made in various factories in bloody nice condition. I also met a bloke online who makes damned good money selling the older SMLEs to collectors in the States.

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No offense to the fine design engineers at Steyr, of course.

I truly hope that the quality control at Steyr is far superior to that at Lithgow. The quality of the Aussie made product, when first introduced, was less than desired.
83 faults in the manufacturing process were discovered by the time NZ units were issued with the AUG, and so began a long process of inspection and repairs...

[Wolf]

I truly hope that the quality control at Steyr is far superior to that at Lithgow. The quality of the Aussie made product, when first introduced, was less than desired.
83 faults in the manufacturing process were discovered by the time NZ units were issued with the AUG, and so began a long process of inspection and repairs...

The plastic bits of the Steyr are made all around the world in local plastics factories.

Not sure where the few metal bits are made.

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The plastic bits of the Steyr are made all around the world in local plastics factories.

Not sure where the few metal bits are made.

The plastics used were not up to NZ quality UV rays! The result? The plastic distorted and the magazines fell out...

[Wolf]

The plastics used were not up to NZ quality UV rays! The result? The plastic distorted and the magazines fell out...

Hmmm, they must import the raw plastic -the plastic bits for Steyrs are manufactured here in NZ, too.

[jrandom]

the ole enfields never became worth that sort of money.

An original condition NZ-issue WW2 sniper model Mk IV SMLE recently went for over $4K on TardMe.

The plastic bits of the Steyr are made all around the world in local plastics factories.

Oh dear, oh yes. Tell me about it. Company I work for designs hi-fi and noise-cancelling headphones. It's fairly important to get the plastics right, as you'd imagine, what with acoustic physics being the bitch that they are, and typical consumers being the violent, inconsiderate bastards that they are.

The kind of issues that you run into when trying to get injection-molded parts made to strict tolerances with the correct chemistry without breaking some beancounter's bill-of-materials budget make grown men cry on a regular basis.

[doc]

An original condition NZ-issue WW2 sniper model Mk IV SMLE recently went for over $4K on TardMe.

See proper nostalgia, don't get that sort of nostalgia with an SLR.
Remember a .303 snipers rifle in the armoury in Waiouru when I was a noobie. Just think of what they could have done with todays stuff. Different times certainly harder men.

[The Lone Rider]

All I have are a bunch of automatic air rifles that are no longer legal to import into NZ. They are both custom Hecklar & Koch G3 models, for playing airsoft and target shooting. I want to sell them but you can't list them on trademe

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Hecklar & Koch G3 models,

Heckler

I want to sell them but you can't list them on trademe

This is why www.kiwiguns.co.nz came into existance, because of betrademe's internal policy of not allowing legally owned firearms, etc to be listed.

[scumdog]

The plastic bits of the Steyr are made all around the world in local plastics factories.

Not sure where the few metal bits are made.

The 'hammer' was made by the sintered metal process, a lot of them failed under repeated impacts in the AUGs.

[Wolf]

The 'hammer' was made by the sintered metal process, a lot of them failed under repeated impacts in the AUGs.

*a quick google later*
Thanks for that. So the plastics aren't the only things that are "injection moulded" on them.

I'd hope the barrel is manufactured by more conventional metal-working.

[The Lone Rider]

Heckler


This is why www.kiwiguns.co.nz came into existance, because of betrademe's internal policy of not allowing legally owned firearms, etc to be listed.

Kiwi guns appears to be a search portal for a currently unregistered domain name?

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Kiwi guns appears to be a search portal for a currently unregistered domain name?

Ah,crap!
That site was quite handy for a while, also without comission fees that betrademe like to charge.
If they worked out that if licenced trading for was going on (on tardme) for more than just "A" cat stuff, then their comissions (profits) would be much higher.