The firearm thread

[jono035]

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Yeah, they've got a bunch of those hung up around the range, very useful tool. I find for the most part I don't have any trouble with the lateral positioning, just snatching the trigger instead of letting it break cleanly pulling the shots low.

The other guy shotting the 9mm at least showed that the sights are low which is what I expected. The rear sight arrangement on the pistol is quite odd and is held up by a spring to a plunger that runs on a plate coming up out of the trigger mechanism. It shifts while pulling the trigger... Very odd.

[Mr Merde]

Target for all you rifle boys

[Indiana_Jones]

Here you go wbks,

http://www.reloaders.co.nz/Our_specials.html

$250 for the MN and its toys.

Also a pretty good price on the Tigr and M14

-Indy

[wbks]

Here you go wbks,

http://www.reloaders.co.nz/Our_specials.html

$250 for the MN and its toys.

Also a pretty good price on the Tigr and M14

-Indy

Cool, thanks. The same projectile as a 308 with a longer shell must give it a pretty decent kick for hunting, but are they very accurate? Just seems weird that they go for 200-300 never fired, while new 308s are almost a grand. Or are they just cheap because of the amount made from the 40's-90's?

[Indiana_Jones]

Cool, thanks. The same projectile as a 308 with a longer shell must give it a pretty decent kick for hunting, but are they very accurate? Just seems weird that they go for 200-300 never fired, while new 308s are almost a grand. Or are they just cheap because of the amount made from the 40's-90's?

Don't buy the "it's never been fired" lies, they wouldn't be churning out guns in WWII not to be fired!

They're refurbished, so they've been fixed in the shop as needed and then covered in cosmoline and stuck in a wharehouse in the middle of nowhere lol.

They were made from 1891 through to 1948-50, then the AK took over (in between they used the SKS)

As for accuracy, ignore anything RM will tell you lol, take it for what it is, a service rifle designed to shoot human shaped figures at a few hundred metres.

A half decent one will do a few inched groups at 100, 200 yards. But if you want a tack driver look past any service rifle.

They're very interesting rifles, well to myself at least and a good cheap entry rifle to get into surplus rifle collecting/shooting.

Hope that helps somewhat.

-Indy

[jono035]

Don't buy the "it's never been fired" lies, they wouldn't be churning out guns in WWII not to be fired!

Unless they're actual military surplus that were made, packed in cosmoline and then never issued... Don't know how common that is really but a few quick looks around some of the pages that I've seen that talk about antique firearms certainly indicate that it isn't unheard of...

[Swoop]

Also a pretty good price on the Tigr and M14

Bloody hell. That is a good price!

[The Pastor]

Cool, thanks. The same projectile as a 308 with a longer shell must give it a pretty decent kick for hunting, but are they very accurate? Just seems weird that they go for 200-300 never fired, while new 308s are almost a grand. Or are they just cheap because of the amount made from the 40's-90's?

they are on the heavy side for hunting mate (good for making a stretcher / frame to carry out a deer/pig or used as a club when your outta ammo or as a tent pole tho......).

if you wanted a hunting rifle with the same accuracy you can get a sport-a-tarded 303 on tm for cheap as chips.

[Indiana_Jones]

Unless they're actual military surplus that were made, packed in cosmoline and then never issued... Don't know how common that is really but a few quick looks around some of the pages that I've seen that talk about antique firearms certainly indicate that it isn't unheard of...

Well true Jono, I'm not saying it's impossible, but you know some of the BS the shops say to sell something lol

Bloody hell. That is a good price!

I know!

they are on the heavy side for hunting mate (good for making a stretcher / frame to carry out a deer/pig or used as a club when your outta ammo or as a tent pole tho......).

if you wanted a hunting rifle with the same accuracy you can get a sport-a-tarded 303 on tm for cheap as chips.

RM makes a good point as far as the weight goes, they're not light.

And as a club? you animal, that's what the bayonet is for!

-Indy

[jono035]

you know some of the BS the shops say to sell something

Aint that the truth *sigh*

[wbks]

Don't buy the "it's never been fired" lies, they wouldn't be churning out guns in WWII not to be fired!

They're refurbished, so they've been fixed in the shop as needed and then covered in cosmoline and stuck in a wharehouse in the middle of nowhere lol.

They were made from 1891 through to 1948-50, then the AK took over (in between they used the SKS)

As for accuracy, ignore anything RM will tell you lol, take it for what it is, a service rifle designed to shoot human shaped figures at a few hundred metres.

A half decent one will do a few inched groups at 100, 200 yards. But if you want a tack driver look past any service rifle.

They're very interesting rifles, well to myself at least and a good cheap entry rifle to get into surplus rifle collecting/shooting.

Hope that helps somewhat.

-Indy

I thought they used them ww2 as sniper rifles as well as infantry rifles besides the ppsh? I wouldn't be asking (at that price) for something that would send bullets through the previous hole at 3000 yards, but just something that wouldn't miss a hay bale at 200 meters
I would have expected un fired ones to be lying around, actually, i was under the impression that they made them until the 50s (like you said) so there werent too many wars going on, or much use for the nagant?

[Indiana_Jones]

I thought they used them ww2 as sniper rifles as well as infantry rifles besides the ppsh? I wouldn't be asking (at that price) for something that would send bullets through the previous hole at 3000 yards, but just something that wouldn't miss a hay bale at 200 meters
I would have expected un fired ones to be lying around, actually, i was under the impression that they made them until the 60s

Chances are some of them were used very little or not fired at all, with some back line troops etc using them, we'd never know as I'd imagine russian weapon inventories won't be the best, they loose track of atom bombs let alone a single rifle of 37 million made lol

They were used as sniper rifles during the war, Zaitsev used one.

-Indy

[wbks]

Chances are some of them were used very little or not fired at all, with some back line troops etc using them, we'd never know as I'd imagine russian weapon inventories won't be the best, they loose track of atom bombs let alone a single rifle of 37 million made lol I had always assumed that's why there are so many Ak47s in use by criminals and terrorists

They were used as sniper rifles during the war, Zaitsev used one.
No idea who that is... Off to Google!
-Indy

Holy damn... Rumored half a thousand kills! Puts a little bit more confidence in the Mosin, aye...

[Indiana_Jones]

Holy damn... Rumored half a thousand kills! Puts a little bit more confidence in the Mosin, aye...

The female snipers were pretty deadly during ww2.

There was a video on youtube where they were hitting 18" steel plates at 900 yards with a mosin.

Comrade Commisar!

-Indy

[Wolf]

They were used as sniper rifles during the war, Zaitsev used one.

AFAIK, they tested them and the very best were hand-picked for refitting as Sniper rifles - upgraded sights - the rest were good enough for the average soldier.

The Dragunov sniper rifle used the same cartridge.