The firearm thread

[jono035]

Let us know how you get on, we could use some of those at 'the range', unless of course that's what you're already doing.

-Indy

Well I hadn't really thought of it as 'for' anywhere, but yeah, that was what I had in my head when I started thinking about the heavier plate...

Making the thing will be just as easy to get more targets made. Fletcher steel apparently has offcuts available (such as 6000x2400x80.... 9 ton steel plate anyone?) of all sorts of plate, even some hardened/abrasion resistant plate which would be pretty cool as well, haven't gotten around to calling them about prices, but they have some things listed there for $2-3/kg...

[jono035]

Well if there really is a huge difference in weight between the two for hunting, than I won't complain about buying a 303 instead, but Nagants look pretty nice and with the bigger caliber and what not. They just look a lot nicer to me and have a nice big caliber, so I was wondering if there really is much difference.

Bigger caliber?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.303_British

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.62x54R

Doesn't really look like there is anything in it?

[wbks]

They're not THAT heavy, you'd start to noticed towards the end of the day when you're tired etc, but if a Russian can march from Stalingrad to Berlin with one, I'm sure you can manage a few days in the bush lol. I was thinking that today when wondering if the weight really matters that much. Oh yea, that russian sniper you mentioned is featured in a video game "call of duty: world at war", you get to play as him and blow nazis apart with a 14.5mm russian anti-tank rifle

Though they are long, so can get caught on branches etc.

Could get the M44 Carbine version

hose have a wicked muzzle flash "flame breathing mosin nagant"...

-Indy

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[Indiana_Jones]

Well if there really is a huge difference in weight between the two for hunting, than I won't complain about buying a 303 instead, but Nagants look pretty nice and with the bigger caliber and what not. They just look a lot nicer to me and have a nice big caliber, so I was wondering if there really is much difference.

Just get both? lol

If you think Mosin looks nice (good call there) go for it.

You can get 'sports' No. 4s for about $100 for a tidy one.

the .303 is a touch bigger then the 7.62x54R if I remember correctly

EDIT: COD:WAW is wicked, I was playing it and using the M1 carbine

-Indy

[wbks]

Bigger caliber?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.303_British

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.62x54R

Doesn't really look like there is anything in it?

The casing is quite a bit longer than the .303

[Mr Merde]

Well if there really is a huge difference in weight between the two for hunting, than I won't complain about buying a 303 instead, but Nagants look pretty nice and with the bigger caliber and what not. They just look a lot nicer to me and have a nice big caliber, so I was wondering if there really is much difference.

My Remington Rolling Block rifle I have just been rebuilding will weigh in at about 12-13 lbs.

It is a single shot rifle that fires a 535 gn soft lead bullet propelled by 65 gns of Black powder. The bullets velocity bis about 1400fps. It will reach out to approximately 1500 yards accurately (my eyesight wont).

It is a rebuild buffalo hunting rifle from the 1870's

[jono035]

My Remington Rolling Block rifle I have just been rebuilding will weigh in at about 12-13 lbs.

It is a single shot rifle that fires a 535 gn soft lead bullet propelled by 65 gns of Black powder. The bullets velocity bis about 1400fps. It will reach out to approximately 1500 yards accurately (my eyesight wont).

It is a rebuild buffalo hunting rifle from the 1870's

Someone needs to really get around to importing some buffalo...

wbks - the .303 is 7.7x56R, not sure what you're looking at there but the .303 is 2mm longer?

Anyway, bed time for me, it's my birthday tomorrow so I'm going to the range to mow through some more of Chris' military 9mm ammo and a heap of .22LR with a couple of friends.

[Mr Merde]

The casing is quite a bit longer than the .303

Performance of the 7.62 is about equal to a 30-06 or only a few fps more than a 308.

There is quite an art developing a new round. The .308 cas is a lot smaller than the russian and american rounds but only develops 200fps less (approx). It has the benifit of not needing as large a breech as the previous two so therefore can benifit in quite a bit oif weight saving.

Start reading ballistic tables and you will start to understand performance in ammunition. A dryt subject but you do get to know which round to choose for which purpose.

Chris

[Mr Merde]

Someone needs to really get around to importing some buffalo...

wbks - the .303 is 7.7x56R, not sure what you're looking at there but the .303 is 2mm longer?

Anyway, bed time for me, it's my birthday tomorrow so I'm going to the range to mow through some more of Chris' military 9mm ammo and a heap of .22LR with a couple of friends.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY MATE.

[wbks]

EDIT: COD:WAW is wicked, I was playing it and using the M1 carbine

-Indy

Eliminating Nazi Zombies with an M1 Carbine!
jono - Yea, looking at the opposite one... Oops
So its not too heavy, but might get caught on branches. Hmm, well I suppose I could bear the burden of having another rifle...

[Indiana_Jones]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY MATE.

What he said ^^^

And if you want a hunting rifle wbks, find a Martini-Henry (or Enfield)

Tell you what, that might be good idea for my next rifle, a Nice MH and get some brass.....

This thread is terrible on my wallet lol

-Indy

[Mr Merde]

A 2 bore rifle
weighed in at 35 lbs

loaded with 325 gns of black powder and a 3500 gn projectile (the 50bmg uses a 750 gn bullet) MV about 1500 fps but hit with approximately 17,500 ft·lbf (23,700 N·m) of energy

[jono035]

Hahaha thanks guys, although that smiley was a little worrying, Chris

Night all.

(and I know the feeling about pain-in-the-wallet...)

[wbks]

A 2 bore rifle
weighed in at 35 lbs

loaded with 300 gns of black poder and a 3500 gn projectile (the 50bmg uses a 750 gn bullet) MV about 1500 fps but hit with approximately 17,500 ft·lbf (23,700 N·m) of energy

So I should aim for something like that to start off with?
Just as a rough estimate: Would a smaller projectile with more black powder have more stopping power? Or just better trajectory?

[Indiana_Jones]

A 2 bore rifle
weighed in at 35 lbs

loaded with 300 gns of black poder and a 3500 gn projectile (the 50bmg uses a 750 gn bullet) MV about 1500 fps but hit with approximately 17,500 ft·lbf (23,700 N·m) of energy

Jesus Christ lol

Good thing it doesn't have a free-standing grip, otherwise it'd be deadly....

-Indy