The firearm thread

**jono035** · 12th September 2009, 15:03

Just had a glance through the rifles listed on trade-me and in hindsight those Norinco .22s are incredibly cheap, they can't help but be a good first step.

Anyone have any idea how well they shoot?

**Indiana_Jones** · 12th September 2009, 15:09

Originally Posted by jono035

Just had a glance through the rifles listed on trade-me and in hindsight those Norinco .22s are incredibly cheap, they can't help but be a good first step.

Anyone have any idea how well they shoot?

I've used Scott's JW15, it's a very good shooter

My only gripe is how the bolt comes up too high when up go to open it, it's the same on the CZ (whiched they copied the desgin from) and you tend to hit the scope with your fingers.

But for the money you pay you get a great rifle

-Indy

**wbks** · 12th September 2009, 17:33

Depends how cheap I can get them for, really. I'm only planning on getting one to play with at home in between (hopefully) actually getting a hunting rifle and finally getting into it. At a guess, do those LR single shots (all look pretty similar) shoot very straight?

**jono035** · 12th September 2009, 17:51

Originally Posted by wbks

Depends how cheap I can get them for, really. I'm only planning on getting one to play with at home in between (hopefully) actually getting a hunting rifle and finally getting into it. At a guess, do those LR single shots (all look pretty similar) shoot very straight?

Tough to know, much the same probably, .22lr is weak enough that you can get the same accuracy regardless of action type, it's more about trigger quality and barrel stiffness/length...

**Mr Merde** · 14th September 2009, 07:05

I was sitting on my deck yesterday morning when a pair of turkeys started calling from the field next door.

For those of you who know my place they were approx 50 metres further away from the cliff we usually shoot into.

Got out the .223 bolt action, extended the tripod, took aim and fired, a quick turn of the bolt and I took the second shot.

Result---- 2 more turkeys dressed and in the freezer.

Rough measurement put the distance at about 250 metres.

Nicest bit was that the shots were clean and my homeload performed very well.

As a note. .224 calibre, 52 gn, hollowpoint rounds moving at about 3000 fps, are explosive. Turkeys dropped like a stone. Both shots were to the chest cavity and the first bird when I picked it up had pieces of its heart and lungs comming out of the 25 mm exit wound.

Went down to Taupo last week and had a day tramping in the Kaimaniwa's.

Locals told me where there were pigs and Sika. Carried the trapdoor for 6 hours through the bush. Saw lots of sign but no shot able to be taken. Went back later that night and a local showed me where the aniimals usually congregated. I was about 1/2 mile out. Bugger, I really wanbted to blood the 1883 rifle. It is the only one of my firearms that hasnt drawn blood yet. It was a hard tramp for me but very satisfying.

Doctors orders were to get more exercise. I've been doing this. Lost 5kg in weight in the past 5 weeks. Blood pressure holding on the high side but docs are happy with improvement.

Shooting and hunting are very good for your health it seems.

Off work this week. Next Saturday my friend from the Uk wants to go to Whitianga for a black powder shoot. Going to be a busy time.

Chris

**jono035** · 14th September 2009, 07:13

Originally Posted by Mr Merde

Saw lots of sign but no shot able to be taken.

Doh, bad luck Chris, but good job getting out there, 5kg is pretty good too, hows the smoking coming?

Interesting about the .223 vs turkey, wouldn't have thought they were solid enough to fragment the bullet but I guess at that speed pretty much anything would...

Edit: Guess you probably don't have to worry too much about finding stray shot in them though...

**jono035** · 14th September 2009, 10:25

Got anything special planned with your week off, Chris?

**Mr Merde** · 14th September 2009, 11:28

Originally Posted by jono035

Got anything special planned with your week off, Chris?

Loaded up 50 Black powder 45-70 rounds. Whitianga shoot next Saturday. Might go and practice with the "short" rifles

Taking my UK friend to Zion lion park

Showing Mark some properties for sale.

Relaxing.

**Indiana_Jones** · 14th September 2009, 12:07

Relaxing, Sounds good!

-Indy

**jono035** · 14th September 2009, 12:30

Sounds good alright... Kick back and let some BP rip for us suckers at work (not that I can really call Uni work...).

Picked up 2kg of AP70 on the bike, fits perfectly in the tank-boot thing, that got a chuckle from the guy.

Projectiles should be here today, press should be here this weekend hopefully and with nothing planned I can start load workup... Looking forward to getting started...

**Indiana_Jones** · 14th September 2009, 12:37

I have half a dozen rounds made up now! lol

-Indy

**jono035** · 14th September 2009, 13:12

Originally Posted by Indiana_Jones

I have half a dozen rounds made up now! lol

-Indy

That's hardly the Indiana Jones Ammunition Factory Ltd.

**Indiana_Jones** · 14th September 2009, 17:08

Originally Posted by jono035

That's hardly the Indiana Jones Ammunition Factory Ltd.

lol I've been busy dealing with moving flats!

-Indy

**jono035** · 14th September 2009, 17:58

Originally Posted by Indiana_Jones

lol I've been busy dealing with moving flats!

-Indy

Ahhh, true. All done and sorted ok?

CSI gets paid $5/kg for mixed brass casings... Apparently we get through 20-30kg a month...

Found an interesting website with a bit of design info for BP cannons, both for salutes and projectile firing, Greybeard Outdoors forum.

Basically steel sleeved barrel or don't fire it. Seamless pipe and they also say no welding, so buggered if I know how it is supposed to be capped...