The firearm thread

**The Pastor** · 3rd October 2009, 08:54

hey guys big party tonight, indy is having his flatwarming.

being that its a flat of complete morons they have forgotten to invite ANYONE.

(i found out through indys brother for petes sake! hahaha)

So your all more than welcome to come have a few quite drinks, and a few not so quite drinks - as long as you byo.

pm Me/indy/magua for the addy - its on the north shore in birken head.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...d.php?t=109062

**jono035** · 3rd October 2009, 14:37

So Indy moved out of his parents place and is moving in with Magua (Duncan?)...

He's all grown up-like, it's adorable.

Birkenhead? Seriously? How the hell am I supposed to get home from Northcote when completely slaughtered?

Edit: And your link doesn't work, http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...d.php?t=109062

**Indiana_Jones** · 3rd October 2009, 15:45

Originally Posted by jono035

So Indy moved out of his parents place and is moving in with Magua (Duncan?)...

He's all grown up-like, it's adorable.

Birkenhead? Seriously? How the hell am I supposed to get home from Northcote when completely slaughtered?

Edit: And your link doesn't work, http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...d.php?t=109062

I havn't lived at home for years? lol

You can sleep on the floor if need be

-Indy

**jono035** · 3rd October 2009, 17:08

Originally Posted by Indiana_Jones

I havn't lived at home for years? lol

You can sleep on the floor if need be

-Indy

Really? Apologies then, must have misunderstood a comment when I was helping butcher RM's bike...

Gotta be home, awake and coherent by 9am tomorrow so no floors for me (at least not by choice...)

Will just taxi it back home and be done with it if I can find a ride out there...

**Swoop** · 5th October 2009, 08:49

Yay for communism...

The Russian firm Izhmash (Izhevsk Mechanical Works) holds the patents for the AK-47, and it is going broke because of all the illegal copies of its weapons being produced worldwide. Izhmash is having little success in trying to force companies in Bulgaria, Romania, Poland, Israel, China and the United States to pay licensing fees for the AK-47s they produce. The typical defense is that it is a much improved rifle, with only a superficial similarity to the Izhmash AK-47. Some claim that Russia abandoned the AK-47 design in the 1970s, when they switched to the 5.45mm AK-74. Actually, the original AK-47 design was replaced in 1963, at least in Russia, by the similar (in appearance) AKM.

Izhmash is 201 years old, and was originally founded by the Czarist government as a state arsenal, for the production of military weapons. In the 1920s, the firm began to produce motorcycles as well, and later, automobiles, and eventually machine tools. It has long been a major manufacturer of Russian military rifles, machine-guns and pistols.

During the Soviet period (1923-91), there were patent laws on the books, but these were generally not observed, especially when it came to foreign technology. The Soviets would respect patents when it suited their purposes (that is, it was cheaper to get help from the patent holder to implement a technology, than it was to just steal it and figure it out), but generally the concept of intellectual property was ignored. Having allowed that kind of thinking to gain some traction, the Russians have had a hard time enforcing rights to Soviet era Russian inventions in a post-Soviet world.

Izhmash is also suffering from poor management, and competition for all of its product (machine tools, other metal working products and lots of metal items). But it's weapons patents, which should have been a prime source of income, has turned into a morass of litigation and legal expenses.

**The Pastor** · 5th October 2009, 09:21

anyone on here got experiance with hornadys custom grade new dimension dies?

I can't seem to get the crimp working. I can follow the instructions up to where is says adjust the seater die body until you have propper crimp.

I adjust it with 1/8th turns and it seems like nothing is happening then i get a squished case. What dose a propper crimp look like?

I've destroyed 5 cases so far lol. its all good apart from the crimp!

**jono035** · 5th October 2009, 10:16

Originally Posted by renegade master

anyone on here got experiance with hornadys custom grade new dimension dies?

I can't seem to get the crimp working. I can follow the instructions up to where is says adjust the seater die body until you have propper crimp.

I adjust it with 1/8th turns and it seems like nothing is happening then i get a squished case. What dose a propper crimp look like?

I've destroyed 5 cases so far lol. its all good apart from the crimp!

I had another check and those dies are a roll crimp, so they should adjust the same as we were talking about on saturday night. A proper crimp would have the bullet seated so the case mouth is at the middle of the cannelure and the mouth is slightly tapered into the recess of the cannelure.

What is the cannelure like on the bullets and where are you seating them to, relative to it? If there is no cannelure or the bullet isn't at the right depth then the roll crimp will either crush the bullet or the case in the crimping process apparently.

Did you check out that link I left on your profile?

If that all fails then let me know and I'll cruise around and check it out.

**Indiana_Jones** · 5th October 2009, 11:26

I hope Izhevsk doesn't go under

-Indy

**The Pastor** · 5th October 2009, 13:24

reloading sure aint a quick process

JDK · 5th October 2009, 14:11

Yea at the start ya think ya have 18 thumbs and 2 left hands but it's not too bad once ya get the hang of reloading then ya spend hours on the range trying diffrent loads out can't get a brand of powder so start over again

JDK

**wbks** · 5th October 2009, 16:45

Are subsonics just the same casing with less powder/a heavier projectile?

**jono035** · 5th October 2009, 17:34

Originally Posted by wbks

Are subsonics just the same casing with less powder/a heavier projectile?

Yep. In some cases you can get just as much energy with a slow projectile, in others you get much less.

**wbks** · 5th October 2009, 18:29

Still worser trajectory. Okay, so hand loading you would actually save money for them, rather than pay more... What a rip for factory rounds! Hey, anyone know where there are some goats around here need shooting? Spent 3 days with one in the house as a "pet". Got no problems with blowing away one of these little bastards now...

**The Pastor** · 5th October 2009, 18:41

there is tons in taranaki, but no one will let you shoot them on their land due to them being worth about $60 each - they heard them.

Much more in the doc land, but they can be pretty hard to sneak up on in the dense bush. - but at least you can smell them from ages away :P

**wbks** · 5th October 2009, 18:46

Originally Posted by renegade master

there is tons in taranaki, but no one will let you shoot them on their land due to them being worth about $60 each - they heard them.

Much more in the doc land, but they can be pretty hard to sneak up on in the dense bush. - but at least you can smell them from ages away :P

Need to get permission for that?