The firearm thread

**Wolf** · 29th October 2009, 08:08

Originally Posted by jono035

There are plenty of ones with good bores for $100-200. They won't be sub moa lasers or anything but they'll shoot plenty well enough to hunt with. A hell of a lot of people do.

The sporterised "Smelly" .303 is a kiwi icon, was a time practically every farm had one. Crumpy immortalised it and extolled its virtues in at least one of his books (just finished rereading his most famous work on the subject for the umphty-umphth time). Robust, reliable and more than adequate for nailing decent-sized game and you have a ten-round mag for the day you round the corner and encounter a mob of goats - should be able to bag more than one even with a bolt action.

**Swoop** · 29th October 2009, 08:43

A follow up from a previous post.

Russia and China are negotiating a settlement over the Kalashnikov assault rifles (who owns what designs and who should be paid royalties). Russia believes there are about 100 million Kalashnikov rifles in existence (most of them AK-47s and variations), and that half of them are illegal copies. China is responsible for the largest number of illegal copies. Russia and China have made peace over decades of Chinese theft of Russian military designs. The two nations are making joint development deals, to create advanced versions of old Russian equipment designs.

**jono035** · 2nd November 2009, 20:18

New toy!

Taurus .44 Magnum Stainless Revolver...

4" barrel (would have preferred longer for better sight radius), compensated. Comes with 4 speed loaders, 100 rounds of ammo, an IPSC holster.

Hopefully it'll get here next week!

**Wolf** · 2nd November 2009, 20:53

Originally Posted by jono035

New toy!

Taurus .44 Magnum Stainless Revolver...

4" barrel (would have preferred longer for better sight radius), compensated. Comes with 4 speed loaders, 100 rounds of ammo, an IPSC holster.

Hopefully it'll get here next week!

congrats. Taurus have a good rep.

**jono035** · 2nd November 2009, 20:56

Originally Posted by Wolf

congrats. Taurus have a good rep.

Yeah, I've been pretty happy with the PT99 that I've got.

The guy is also selling a couple of 1911 pattern pistols and a .22 target pistol insanely cheap... This may turn out more expensive than initially planned...

**sAsLEX** · 2nd November 2009, 21:08

Originally Posted by jono035

Yeah, I've been pretty happy with the PT99 that I've got.

The guy is also selling a couple of 1911 pattern pistols and a .22 target pistol insanely cheap... This may turn out more expensive than initially planned...

I want a 1911...... or a P226.... just need that license.

But I have too many hobbies at the moment to get the required range visits, especially now our ranges at Whangaparoa are closed!

**jono035** · 3rd November 2009, 07:25

Originally Posted by sAsLEX

I want a 1911...... or a P226.... just need that license.

But I have too many hobbies at the moment to get the required range visits, especially now our ranges at Whangaparoa are closed!

Yeah, I think that'll be the next on the cards for me as well. There are a couple of guys at the range who own IPSC kitted out Paras that are pretty impressive, but I think I'd go for a plain single-stack one without all the bells and whistles...

The guy who I bought the revolver off is also selling a few 1911s, a couple of cheap ones that are apparently quite rough around the edges and then a Peters Stahl 1911 that looks very tasty.

**Mr Merde** · 3rd November 2009, 07:33

Originally Posted by jono035

Yeah, I think that'll be the next on the cards for me as well. There are a couple of guys at the range who own IPSC kitted out Paras that are pretty impressive, but I think I'd go for a plain single-stack one without all the bells and whistles...

The guy who I bought the revolver off is also selling a few 1911s, a couple of cheap ones that are apparently quite rough around the edges and then a Peters Stahl 1911 that looks very tasty.

What sort of prices for the 1911's?

**jono035** · 3rd November 2009, 08:18

Originally Posted by Mr Merde

What sort of prices for the 1911's?

http://www.gunstuff.co.nz/other_item...wner_id=100016

That is the guy's other listings on gunstuff.

buyout prices of $400 for the AMT 1911, $450 for the springfield (which is too long to compete in IPSC production apparently) and $1200 for the Peters Stahl.

He also has a walther OSP target pistol for $175 that looks decent too.

**Swoop** · 3rd November 2009, 10:22

Originally Posted by jono035

the Peters Stahl.

Interesting that it is on a springfield frame. They make their own frames and the tolerances are much nicer.
You will need a taper crimp die, if you get this.

**jono035** · 3rd November 2009, 11:01

Originally Posted by Swoop

Interesting that it is on a springfield frame. They make their own frames and the tolerances are much nicer.
You will need a taper crimp die, if you get this.

Pretty much all autoloader dies (definitely all .45ACP dies) are taper crimp because they headspace on the case mouth. I don't think you could find one that wasn't?

**Swoop** · 3rd November 2009, 14:15

Originally Posted by jono035

Pretty much all autoloader dies (definitely all .45ACP dies) are taper crimp because they headspace on the case mouth. I don't think you could find one that wasn't?

I will guess that modern stuff is all taper crimp?

My seating die is roll crimp & I have to back that off a touch, then taper afterwards to suit the chamber tolerances. Yay for a 5 position press!

**Mr Merde** · 3rd November 2009, 14:27

Sat down at the reloading table and preped 800 M1 .30 Carbine cases.

Decapped, resized and ready for primer, powder and bullet.

Very laborious task but as her indoors was p1ssed with me it made for a safe and pleasant few hours.

Oh for a progressive press and all the components to feed such.