As long as it wasnt a mountain, he should be OKOriginally Posted by pritch008
Shotgun (single, double, pump, lever, bolt)
Shotgun Auto (non MSSA)
Rifle (single, double, pump, lever, bolt)
Rifle Auto (non MSSA)
MSSA
Pistol
Black powder (rifle, pistol, shotgun)
Air/Gas (pistol, rifle)
un-armed
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As long as it wasnt a mountain, he should be OK
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If I buy this, who can help me make one? http://www.trademe.co.nz/Sports/Hunt...-101330750.htm. Owning a manufactured one cant be as fun as firing one you made yourself.
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And how can a man die better
Than facing fearful odds
For the ashes of his fathers
And the temples of his Gods
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Im wanting to import one of these http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...x?id=101049608 as they are a fraction of the price in the US to buying one here.
Before I rock up to the cop shop and bug them, has anyone had any experience or any information in importing firearms? I have been onto the police website and confirmed that these are allowed to be imported into New Zealand. Next thing is how I go about it because the net isnt very helpful
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Well, I gave the PET Bottle silencer a test on the weekend in between killing goats and cans, and I'd have to say it doesn't work very well, but it does work.
Test equipment:
Gun = Stirling 20P Semi-Automatic .22LR
Ammo = Remington "22 Golden", .22LR High Velocity
Silencer = 1.5Litre ginger-ale PET container
After doing some research, there seemed to be 2 schools of thought.
1 - Hole in the bottom to allow the bullet to fly out unhindered, letting the bottle reduce the velocity of escaping gas.
2 - No hole, 'single shot' silencer, bullet punches it's way out.
Well, the latter sounded too dangerous and a little pointless for practical day-to-day application (i.e. bunny shooting)
The PET bottle does reduce the crack a little bit. It's more noticable in an enclosed space, there is noticably less echo, although the apparent volume is not much less at all. I doubt even with a bolt action and sub-sonic ammo the PET bottle silencer would reduce your shooting volume significantly.
Some sort of dB metering equipment would've been nice, the old earometer isn't so flash at distinguising noise from outright volume.
Still Ridin'
When I took apart my moderator for cleaning, I noted that its construction involved a number of metal "washers" separated by fairly light springs, The washers act as baffles to slow the gasses and I suspect that being separated by springs would allow them to move with the gas and act somewhat more like a shock absorber to be more efficient at robbing the gas of velocity (as well as prevent the screw thread from taking the full brunt of gasses slamming into fixed baffles/washers)
I've heard of some moderators using fibreglas wool or similar to aid in robbing the gasses of velocity.
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Mallicious Little Gnome
If you look at the really good suppressors you will find that they make extensive use of expansion chambers and bleed off holes through the various baffles. This is until the last chamber where the resultant gasses escape through the same orrifice as the bullet exits.
Those "silencers" with baffles and springs are pretty basic and do a moderate job of suppressing the noise.
Yes there have been cases of material bein gused as a packing and it does work to some extent. I have tried this with a coke can filled with tissue paper and using sub sonic .22 ammo this was quite a silent. The bullet made its own exit hole from the end of the can. Yhe whole unit only lasted a few rounds but it worked.
Using a sub sonic round always helps.
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Lifes a bowl of ....MERDE"
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I wont use a .22 without a moderator after fitting one to mine. Thats my 2c
To every man upon this earth
Death cometh sooner or late
And how can a man die better
Than facing fearful odds
For the ashes of his fathers
And the temples of his Gods
Mallicious Little Gnome
A good 2c worth. Suppressors\silencers\gentlemans accessories are well worth the purchase and use. Especially if one values their hearing.
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Lifes a bowl of ....MERDE"
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Not just hearing, but the advantage you have over your prey is pretty good. I used to go out on the in laws farm and get maybe 2 or 3 bunnies before they dissapered. Now I rarely come home with less than 10.
Ive used a moderator on a couple or larger caliber weapons before, but never in a hunting scene. Would love to know the advantages (if any) considering you are usually only shooting 1 or 2 animals.
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Death cometh sooner or late
And how can a man die better
Than facing fearful odds
For the ashes of his fathers
And the temples of his Gods
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Hmmm, I see what you mean, but think of the implications of your logic...
Mallicious Little Gnome
In the UK you used to have to approach the police and get a special addition to your FAC (firearms cert) for a suppressor. One enterprising gentleman about 10 years ago approached them and was refused. He then approached Environmental Health (OSH) and put it on their door. EH told the police that they were perfectly entitled to refuse to allow suppressors but if anyone lost their hearing due to it then the police force was liable for full damages.
Ever since then the police offer free suppressor additions to FAC's.
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Lifes a bowl of ....MERDE"
Mallicious Little Gnome
From what I have read, the use of a suppressor on a fullbore rifle with supersonic ammo doesnt so much as silence the round but muffle its signature making it harder to pinpoint from which direction the shot came.
In a hunting situation this may lead to the animals being unable to tell in which direction the threat came from and therefore not react to it. The hunter then may be able to get off a few more shots before there is general panic and a scattering in every direction.
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Lifes a bowl of ....MERDE"
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Ok.
I think somewhere in this thread I said something similar. Shows how my memory is. Its the same theory in a situation when you are in urban warfare. The advantages of a silencer can save your life (apparently)
To every man upon this earth
Death cometh sooner or late
And how can a man die better
Than facing fearful odds
For the ashes of his fathers
And the temples of his Gods
Mallicious Little Gnome
I think you did somewhere. This thread is rather large now.
"When you think of it,
Lifes a bowl of ....MERDE"
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If it is on the "approved" list (A-cat, etc) no problems. Just wander down and visit your local Arms Officer and have a chat.
When/if approved, the import permit will need to be given to customs who will then (& only then) allow it past the border into your waiting hands.
Export permit from the US might be fun if it comes from there - or even if it travels in their airspace!!!
Keep a photocopy of all documents!!!!!.....
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