The firearm thread

[Drunken Monkey]

The ONLY reference to "boat" in the entire act pertains to duck hunters:

"Boat

Duck shooters should check their game licence before they use a firearm in a boat."

[jono035]

No, t'was the M14...

Damn, I was hopeful...

As for the 'open water', well I don't think shooting off a boat is going to work for target shooting so you're then shooting off the coast.

Discharging firearm, airgun, pistol, or restricted weapon in or near dwellinghouse or public place

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Every person commits an offence and is liable on summary conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 3 months or to a fine not exceeding $3,000 or to both who, without reasonable cause, discharges a firearm, airgun, pistol, or restricted weapon in or near—
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(a) a dwellinghouse; or
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(b) a public place,—

so as to endanger property or to endanger, annoy, or frighten any person.

Edit: I realise that it says 'without reasonable cause' but if you've pissed people off and they've called the cops, chances are they're going to ruin your day over the interpretation of that just for fun. If you're shooting from the coast then the assumption is that you're within a reasonable distance from any other houses, because if you aren't within a km of houses then just use that km of dry land to shoot over.

[Drunken Monkey]

"so as to endanger property or to endanger, annoy, or frighten any person."

That last line is a VERY important part of the legislation. If you're reading it as simply "illegal to discharge in or near a dwellinghouse or public place", then your interpretation is incorrect, as that would basically make any firearms discharge an offense.

[jono035]

"so as to endanger property or to endanger, annoy, or frighten any person."

That last line is a VERY important part of the legislation. If you're reading it as simply "illegal to discharge in or near a dwellinghouse or public place", then your interpretation is incorrect, as that would basically make any firearms discharge an offense.

Note that the other component is 'in a public place' up the top.

And yeah, you could make almost any discharge of a firearm an offense, which is why you should probably do it on private property with permission, rather than on public property.

I'm not saying it's likely, I'm saying that if it would happen it'd ruin your day pretty nicely.

[Drunken Monkey]

True, the issue with public land is that it's very hard to manage who enters it and when, so safety does become an issue. On the water, you can see a lot further and cease any dangerous activities before anyone closes the distance.

This is all irrespective of the impracticalities of firing from a moving platform, mind you, I'm just saying I think Merde is wrong and why.

If sAsLex were here, he'd tell you to man up, and that being a navy boy he fires from a boat, in a force 9, with a blindfold on, left handed, from the hip.

:P

[jono035]

True, the issue with public land is that it's very hard to manage who enters it and when, so safety does become an issue. On the water, you can see a lot further and cease any dangerous activities before anyone closes the distance.

This is all irrespective of the impracticalities of firing from a moving platform, mind you, I'm just saying I think Merde is wrong and why.

If sAsLex were here, he'd tell you to man up, and that being a navy boy he fires from a boat, in a force 9, with a blindfold on, left handed, from the hip.

:P

True enough, but Alex has the advantage that, being a navy boy, he's probably got more immunity to pestering by the police lol

[The Pastor]

takapuna beach is really calm

[sAsLEX]

I can't see why, as long as it's done safely it's no different [the law] to firing on land.
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We fire all the time off the back of our boat!

[jono035]

We fire all the time off the back of our boat!

You really should bring one of those along next shoot...

[Swoop]

It's not unheard of for people to launch clays off the back of a boat - don't cruise ships still do this?

A mate of mine takes his clay thrower with him and busts' clays off of the back of his 25' launch in the Hauraki Gulf. So long as you are far away from other boats... game on!

I pinched my finger in my bipod two weeks ago during routine maintenance/rust inspection and cut my skin. Does this count as an injury?

The bipod is not a firearm. It is an "accessory" or an "acoutrement".
All you would be doing is adding to statistics that would be used against shooters...

[Mr Merde]

I remember an incident from my past, way way way back in time.

Met up with some friends and we went to Browns Beach.

Finished up shooting seagulls with a Broomhandle Mauser pistol ( Spanish copy on full auto).

I do remeber it was fun at the time

Of course I wouldnt condone behaviour like this but my excuse was that I was young and full of "piss and vinegar"

[Mr Merde]

We fire all the time off the back of our boat!

But not inside the territorial waters, I bet.

[Mr Merde]

We fire all the time off the back of our boat!

Question for you Alex.

Whats the difference between a warship and an armed merchant ship?

Subtlke difference but important. Explained to me by some old Navy boys in the UK.

[Mr Merde]

On a different note.

I submitted my CV to 8 job advertisements, on Wednesday.

So far I have 5 interviews.

2 of them this afternoon, one by telephone this weekend, one on Monday afternoon and the final to be arranged.

This final one is a little daunting as it is for the position of Senior Systems Administrator and by the title I am assumning there are non senior admins. This means staff and I havent managed staff for 19 years. I swore that I would never again take up a management position. What good is swearing. The money they are offering is too tempting to not at least give it a try and they rang me so they must have liked my CV.

Sharron is very supportive in all this.

[The Pastor]

hope the job hunt proves fruitful. Good luck.