The firearm thread

[jono035]

Cool - I intend for it to be way past the minimum commercial standard it will probably incorporate the RSJ structure in the shed to be absolutely immobile


Knowing where your bullets are going to land has always been the single most important thing I was taught. The incline on the gulley edges is nearly 45 degrees so almost and shot taken down there is gauranteed safe.

I will have a closer look at my ground at the weekend to see if there are any game signs - not having anything that I could hunt with I havn't looked all that hard - there is 5 strand wire all round the property but that wouldn't stop deer at all...

Glad to hear it all, sounds good! Once the weather gets a little more reliable, could always try re-convene the Onewhero Shooting Club up there, that'd bring out a few interesting toys for you to check out...

[Swoop]

one of them didn't last long before splitting down the sides.

Interesting. I bought mine in 1990 and it is still going strong.

[Shadows]

Interesting. I bought mine in 1990 and it is still going strong.

Try putting one on the Norinco I used to have. 2 shots or so and the front will have blown clean off. I blame it on the fact that the cheaparse piece of shit didn't actually have the bore down the centre of the barrel though, rather than anything being wrong with the moderator.

[Smokin]

How does the ammo cost compare?

I'm going to stick with .22LR as a recommendation for the money, I don't think getting a decent setup in .17HMR is likely for $500.

Ammo is quite a bit more expensive, You can buy a brick of 500 for around $200 but in saying that you dont have wastage that always happens with .22s.
Because they shoot so flat 90% of varmints you see are in range, sight them in to zero at 100 meters and have a crack at everything out to 200+ meters.
I said cost was on par with a 10/22 not a Norinco, you can buy a scoped savage 93r package for around $600, Marlin .17HMR's are normally a couple of bucks cheaper.

[Beren]

Awesome advice so far guys thanks!

In my price bracket it looks like I could be looking at:
Ruger 10/22
223 Norinco JW 105 or 7.62mm JW 103
Marlin .22
Polytech .223
.22LR Savage Mark II-F Suppressed
Norinco JW 23 .22lr

Plus anything else that happens to wander through trademe... is there a rough guide in terms of general quality? Thanfully my father-in-law knows a fair bit about rifles having been a competition shooter for the army... so I will be using his expertise on condition of second hand rifles (hence the over the top scope on the air rifle) but I am not sure he will know a lot about brands since he hasn't owned a gun in umm well I best not say incase he finds this thread ;p

[Drunken Monkey]

Looks like my fellow Onewhero 'club' guys have already answered most of your questions pretty well.

I'd add the Norinco JW-25 to the list of possibles, it's a German Mauser KKW (kar 98 style) copy, in .22 cal and is < $400 at the moment. Bloody good value and a nice looking rifle too.

I've got one of those and a Ruger 10/22 you can have a play with to see if you like them.

Had a .243 as well, a nice shooter. Loud, but easy on the recoil. The only thing is the ammo is even more expensive than .308 or .303, you'd be looking at $45 per box of 20 unless you load your own. .223 or 7.62x39 should be half that price, if you want to shoot a lot the difference adds up pretty quickly.

I did/do have a .243 (Merde's currently sitting on it), so I can't give you one of those to try out, but I've a couple of shotties for snotting possums you can have a look at too (one pump action and one semi-auto).

The usual etiquette is to throw an invite to the OG boys when you've sorted out a date. You supply a suitable range to shoot on and a BBQ. Then we'll bring guns, ammo, meat and drinks.

[Wolf]

Another "Onewhero Gun Club" shooter chiming in, here.

Would definitely be interested in a shoot if it's on one of my free weekends. Will be able to bring up a couple of toys for you to try out in exchange for a chance to sight in my CZ 452-E ZKM.

AFAIK, the Norinco JW 23 is a Chinese copy of the CZ 452. I've heard some fairly good things about them but never tried one. I know the CZ is an excellent firearm (but quite pricey - mine cost bloody-near $800 new a number of years ago and they're up over $800 now)

If you threw on a bit of a bash for the "Onewhero Gun Club", I'm sure you'd have a lot of fun "toys" to try out - great group of people and always keen to encourage shooters to try out different firearms.

[Wolf]

I'm thinking of getting rid of my SKS in favour of something with a flatter trajectory if anyone's interested in buying/trading.

It's a Russian-made SKS that's been modified to comply with the definition of a "sporting semi-auto" - magazine cut down to five shots, bayonet lug removed. I have a synthetic hole-through stock for it and a crap-load of cheap FMJ (not suitable for reloading).

Looking to get myself a nice .243 or .308 bolt action to replace it.

[frogfeaturesFZR]

Sons just bought a Fuji Super Skeet 12g ( rebranded S&W 1000) semi auto.
Anyone know anything about this model?

[Wolf]

I was directed to an interesting treatise on the lethality of the "little twenty-two" and I thought I would share it here.

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubb...504301&fpart=1

Sadly the pics in the article seem to have expired but the write-up is good and informative.

Some of the comments in the thread are quite interesting - especially when the OP mentions that he later discovered that the "target" was still partially frozen inside.

One of the other posters reckoned that the .22lr is "the most dangerous round available" - I tend to agree...

Mainly because it is so seriously underestimated by so many people.

The piece got me hankering to head out with a supply of ammo, some "interesting" targets and the beloved CZ and do a few ballistics tests of my own.

[jono035]

I was directed to an interesting treatise on the lethality of the "little twenty-two" and I thought I would share it here.

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubb...504301&fpart=1

Sadly the pics in the article seem to have expired but the write-up is good and informative.

Some of the comments in the thread are quite interesting - especially when the OP mentions that he later discovered that the "target" was still partially frozen inside.

One of the other posters reckoned that the .22lr is "the most dangerous round available" - I tend to agree...

Mainly because it is so seriously underestimated by so many people.

The piece got me hankering to head out with a supply of ammo, some "interesting" targets and the beloved CZ and do a few ballistics tests of my own.

That doesn't surprise me at all...

I'd 100% agree with the 'most dangerous round' assessment, although another aspect to that assertion is its truly bastardly tendency to richochet off anything more solid than a stiff breeze...

[Wolf]

That doesn't surprise me at all...

I'd 100% agree with the 'most dangerous round' assessment, although another aspect to that assertion is its truly bastardly tendency to richochet off anything more solid than a stiff breeze...

Surely you meant to say "including a stiff breeze"...

[jono035]

Surely you meant to say "including a stiff breeze"...

or 'anything more solid than a gentle breeze.'..

[scumdog]

That doesn't surprise me at all...

I'd 100% agree with the 'most dangerous round' assessment, although another aspect to that assertion is its truly bastardly tendency to richochet off anything more solid than a stiff breeze...

Even more so when there's a silencer involved.

[Wolf]

Would so love to do some ballistic testing on various things. It's been ages since I've fired anything but airsoft or paintball and I'm feeling rather deprived. (note i not a)