The firearm thread

[carburator]

A nice collection.

I will be looking for two 10\22's. The first an older one with the wood furniture. This I want to play around with. Shorten the barrel, new furniture, add on parts for reliability and looks, find out how the thing works, build a new trigger group for it ( have had the plans for this for 15 years now). Get collectors licence and turn this into a rock and roll machine.

The second I want to get will be one built up for reliability, lightness, quietness, and ease of use.

Thinking more about the pistol side also. A nice .22 plinker to have some fun with. Preferably suppressed. My old ears have too much damage done already. Hence the Sig Mosquito as it can come with a threaded barrel. Sig also do some 9mm and .45 threaded firearms. Mmmm a suppressed .45. Shame I cant use such for possums and bunnies.

Chris

The interesting thing with the ruger importer is they will sell you just about anything ( liscence permitting ) execpt a upper..
hence the market in NZ for uppers on trademe as the accuracy of a ruger is dependant on the fitment of the barrel to
the upper ( like most guns )

tradme is evil lots of nice bits on there , complete timmy trigger yum...

The basic trigger group for the ruger is basic however the number of home job trigger lightenings ive seen where they have
screwed up the angle on the hammer ( and it does'nt take much ) turns them into a one click wounder.. hence a trip to
SAE and about $100 later you have the goodies..

as to the rock and roll, the most complex yet reliable one is the drop in trigger group. acess to a machineshop is required
or a lot of patence with a file ( and those on here that had to do the filing exercises during military training know what i mean )

just recently relaesed, is the biatalon (SP) action, http://www.trademe.co.nz/sports/hunt...-482454717.htm
for stealth in the orchard this would be the bee's knees as the bulk of noise in a semi ruger action is bolt slap on opening
since it is a blow back design fitting a rubber boltstop is ok, they do shit themselves i have machined a plastic one its lasted
but for servicing pain in the ass to push out..

[jono035]

A nice collection.

I will be looking for two 10\22's. The first an older one with the wood furniture. This I want to play around with. Shorten the barrel, new furniture, add on parts for reliability and looks, find out how the thing works, build a new trigger group for it ( have had the plans for this for 15 years now). Get collectors licence and turn this into a rock and roll machine.

The second I want to get will be one built up for reliability, lightness, quietness, and ease of use.

Thinking more about the pistol side also. A nice .22 plinker to have some fun with. Preferably suppressed. My old ears have too much damage done already. Hence the Sig Mosquito as it can come with a threaded barrel. Sig also do some 9mm and .45 threaded firearms. Mmmm a suppressed .45. Shame I cant use such for possums and bunnies.

Chris

Don't forget that .22 Vostok and suppressor of yours that is sitting in my safe at the moment. Slightly smaller suppressor so you can still use the irons or just strap an aimpoint to the suppressor itself.

Taking that shooting tonight, actually.

[sAsLEX]

Alex,

You seen todays papers?

"Australia offers NZ soldiers $250,000 to swap armies"

Aussie Navy is also recruiting.

1/4 mil bonus and Aussie citizenship in 3 months.

Better paid, better equiped, better respected forces than here in NZ.

If I was your age and in the forces I would be very interested

I don't really want to be an Aussie citizen, gun for hire on the other hand......

Got some things on the burner here that if the dice fall my way mean it is worth staying. If there is anyone left!

[Mr Merde]

Don't forget that .22 Vostok and suppressor of yours that is sitting in my safe at the moment. Slightly smaller suppressor so you can still use the irons or just strap an aimpoint to the suppressor itself.

Taking that shooting tonight, actually.

I havent forgotten it.

Need new toys.

Now have 4 British Bulldog pistols. 1 in Wellywood and 3 being held for me in the USA

Wellywood has a .32 S&W 6 shot
In US I havwe 2x .38 S&W and 1x .44 Webley, all 5 shot revolvers.

All of these have 2 1/2 inch barrels with birds head grips.

All need work to get them functioning and all need re plating with nickel to bring back their tolerances.

Total cost so far is under $400 NZ

When redundancy money comes in I will get a good e-cat safe and push the C cat licence application.

Chris

[Mr Merde]

I don't really want to be an Aussie citizen, gun for hire on the other hand......

Got some things on the burner here that if the dice fall my way mean it is worth staying. If there is anyone left!

You not pushing to be Admiral of the Fleet are you?

If you need help Bruce Pepperil was an old class mate mine. I can always contact him and discuss your career.



Chris

[Mr Merde]

"The Gun Is Civilization" by Maj. L. Caudill USMC (Ret)

Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that's it.
In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.
When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force.
The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gang banger, and a single guy on equal footing with a carload of drunken guys with baseball bats. The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.
There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force equations. These are the people who think that we'd be more civilized if all guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for an [armed] mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the mugger's potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative fiat--it has no validity when most of a mugger's potential marks are armed.
People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that's the exact opposite of a civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly.
Then there's the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser.
People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don't constitute lethal force, watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level.
The gun is the only weapon that's as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weight lifter. It simply wouldn't work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn't both lethal and easily employable. When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I'm looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes force from the equation... and that's why carrying a gun is a civilized act.
By Maj. L. Caudill USMC (Ret.)"

I can see the logic in this letter but how do we convince the powers that rule us?

Chris

[The Pastor]

Short Notice i know,

but anyone want to come of a hunt this weekend? its $250 and includes food accom and 1 deer, any extra deer you shoot are $100/ea

[Akzle]

Short Notice i know,

but anyone want to come of a hunt this weekend? its $250 and includes food accom and 1 deer, any extra deer you shoot are $100/ea

counter offer: 50$ and a bag of chips..

would that i could. where abouts are you heading anyway?

[jono035]

RM: How did the hunt go?

Just got back in from the UK this morning. Was working on the charger for this:

http://www.electric-vehiclenews.com/...a-formula.html

Good fun. Got to help them spool it up on a dyno (was controlling the throttle!). It's a bit of a weapon, torque limit set at 3000Nm at the rear wheels...

[The Pastor]

RM: How did the hunt go?

Just got back in from the UK this morning. Was working on the charger for this:

http://www.electric-vehiclenews.com/...a-formula.html

Good fun. Got to help them spool it up on a dyno (was controlling the throttle!). It's a bit of a weapon, torque limit set at 3000Nm at the rear wheels...

not good mate, deer are either hiding or been shot, only had 1 chance to shoot (late on sunday) and got caught with the safety.

I also wanna get more range time. Might be time to move to taupo.

[jono035]

not good mate, deer are either hiding or been shot, only had 1 chance to shoot (late on sunday) and got caught with the safety.

I also wanna get more range time. Might be time to move to taupo.

Gutted, mate. How did everyone else there do? Similar issues?

I'm definitely keen to get in some more trigger time with the AR. July 22nd is the next 100m CF practice at Riverhead, keen?

[The Pastor]

Gutted, mate. How did everyone else there do? Similar issues?

I'm definitely keen to get in some more trigger time with the AR. July 22nd is the next 100m CF practice at Riverhead, keen?

yep Im keen, I'll Remember to take;

Targets, hearing protection, gun flag.

All of which should be included in the $20 range fee...........

[sAsLEX]

yep Im keen, I'll Remember to take;

Targets, hearing protection, gun flag.

All of which should be included in the $20 range fee...........

gun flag?


One of those empty chamber things?

[jono035]

gun flag?


One of those empty chamber things?

Yeah, we have to use them at CSI. Didn't think they'd be a big issue at deerstalkers, but I guess given that you've got to go forward of the line to change targets it makes things a bit clearer.

[sAsLEX]

Yeah, we have to use them at CSI. Didn't think they'd be a big issue at deerstalkers, but I guess given that you've got to go forward of the line to change targets it makes things a bit clearer.

I am just used to military Range Officers who personally clear all weapons.