The firearm thread

**Swoop** · 15th June 2007, 17:05

Originally Posted by Fish

I betcha that 90% of recreational shooters with mil dot scopes don't actually know how to use them properly

Scratching my head here...
I seem to remember thet the dot was equal to the shoulder width of a human at XX yards.
I need to refresh memory on this!
http://www.eabco.com/Reports/MildotRep01.htm

**jrandom** · 15th June 2007, 17:15

Originally Posted by Drunken Monkey

It's the same reason we'd all go hunting with MSSA's if it wasn't so much trouble...

I wouldn't. I like bolt actions.

Originally Posted by Swoop

I seem to remember thet the dot was equal to the shoulder width of a human at XX yards.

Each dot represents one milliradian of arc, doesn't it? I'd work out the trig if I could be arsed and it wasn't Friday arvo.

**Smokin** · 15th June 2007, 17:32

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

they asked me to ask what the ideal scope would be for it...

3-9 x 40 mildot sounds good to me. My friend might put a bi pod on the front of it and take it longer distance rabbit popping... so a 12 power might be fun?

I have this one on mine... http://www.opticsplanet.net/tasco-6-...etvarmint.html

But if you intend to shoot walibys (sp) you tend to see a lens full of fluff instead of your intended hitting point if they are a bit closer, also take a really solid rest to hold it on a bunny at longer range shooting.

Waliby's fall surprizingly easy to a 17HMR once the crosshairs find the head or neck and the killing range is impressive also for such a tiny pill.

on one of the forums I have visited a heap of people use the "BSA sweet 17"
and swear by them. http://www.opticsplanet.net/bsa-rifle-scopes.html

**ManDownUnder** · 15th June 2007, 21:59

Originally Posted by Smokin

on one of the forums I have visited a heap of people use the "BSA sweet 17"
and swear by them. http://www.opticsplanet.net/bsa-rifle-scopes.html

Cheers!

That photo reminds me of a joke...
If a big cock needs a big condom
and a small cock needs a small condom

What do you put on a soft cock??

A Wallaby Jersey! *boom tish!*

**jrandom** · 15th June 2007, 22:47

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

A Wallaby Jersey! *boom tish!*

Mods! PD!

God, dude, that's really bad, even for you.

**scumdog** · 15th June 2007, 23:32

Originally Posted by Fish

I wouldn't bother with a mildot scope or other optical ranging device. With .17HMR, once you're out of the 2" or so point-blank vertical stringing range from about 125m, the teensy bullet has lost so much energy that achieving meaningful hits is going to be dicey at best.

Anyway, can you even get variable mildot scopes? The marks on the crosshair would have to somehow move as you zoomed in.

3-9x sounds good though, and I'd look for something with a big aperture, something that works well in low light for shootin' wee critters at sunset.

I concur. 'Mil-dot's are a fad.
A 3-9 with '30-30' cross-hairs would be ample.

Even a 'bread-and-butter' Nikko-Stirling 'Gold Crown' would do the trick.

On a rifle with no recoil and is not going to be carried from sea-level up to 5,500 feet up a montain a Gold Crown is plentry adequate.

**scumdog** · 15th June 2007, 23:36

Originally Posted by Drunken Monkey

It's the same reason we'd all go hunting with MSSA's if it wasn't so much trouble these days...You know exactly what I mean.

It's NEVER too much trouble!

But speaking of which, has anybody got the proper press-type adjuster for a AK47 fore-sight?

I need to adjust mine so that I don't have to 'aim-off' all the time (windage is off to the right by a bit)

**scumdog** · 15th June 2007, 23:39

Originally Posted by Smokin

Waliby's fall surprizingly easy to a 17HMR once the crosshairs find the head or neck and the killing range is impressive also for such a tiny pill.

I've tried all sorts on 'wobblies', - Mini14, SKS, Gevarm 20 shot 22 etc but at the end of the day killed more with my Sako lever-action 308 at all ranges, messed them up a tad and cost more but put me in good stead when it came to deer and chamois etc.

**Mr Merde** · 16th June 2007, 15:02

On the 5th of May I moved to a house in the country.

Been looking over my back fence and 50 meters away running parrellel to my property is the most perfect 100 meter range.

Southerly facing from a grass covered rocky outcrop about 3 meters high to a cliff over 20 meters high. Sheltered from my house by the bank of a rolling hill and from the nearest neighbours by the rocky outcrop,

Slight elevation but nothing too much.

I've walked the ground a number of times and wanted to shoot there and then.

This morning I went and saw the farmer who owns the land, what luck he is a shooter. He said that I could use the land for target practice whenever I felt like it. he did ask me to be careful of any stock (sheep) in the field but that goes without saying for me.

So what have i got.

My own range. Rifle and shotgun. Smallbore and big bore.

Its a real shame that one isnt allowed to shoot pistol on anything other than a dedicated pistol range that has been approved by the powers. I can shoot 45-70, .44 mag in my carbine, but cant shoot .44 spl or mag with my pistols. Oh dear.

Now to sort out some targets that dont litter the place. I dont want the farmer pissed at me.

Oh by the way there are turkey, peacock and hares on this land also. I've even seen pheasant.

have i died and gone to heaven?

Mr

**Wolf** · 16th June 2007, 16:27

"He chortled in his joy"

Good on, ya, O poetic scatological one.

Beware the Jabberwock while you're out, tho'...

**Mr Merde** · 16th June 2007, 18:18

Originally Posted by Wolf

"He chortled in his joy"

Good on, ya, O poetic scatological one.

Beware the Jabberwock while you're out, tho'...

A literary masterpiece and one of my personal favourite poems.

I have a vorpal sword

**ManDownUnder** · 16th June 2007, 22:22

Originally Posted by Mr Merde

A literary masterpiece and one of my personal favourite poems.

I have a vorpal sword

I look forward to hearing it go snicker snack and the triumphant gallumphing (sp?)

Mr Merde... you lucky bastard! Go for gold mate - awesome!

**Mr Merde** · 18th June 2007, 15:18

Today I picked up one of my WMD's.

Loaned a shottie to MDU a few months back and have only just managed to sort out the time to pick it up. My fault.

ANyway the reason for this post follows.

I can without hesitation or reserve vouch for MDU.

My 12 guage came back imaculate. I'm glad he found use for it and for all and sundry here I would have no hesitation in loaning MDU any other of my firearms that he can legally use.

I wouldnt hesitate in standing gaurantee for MDU if any of you are tempted to loan something to him.

Anyway. Enough.

MDU.. Top shooter takes the line.

Mr

**Sniper** · 18th June 2007, 15:35

Originally Posted by Mr Merde

I can without hesitation or reserve vouch for MDU.
MDU.. Top shooter takes the line.

Mr

Yup, he is a top bloke. Plus he is a fairly decent shot too when he killed my rock.

**ManDownUnder** · 18th June 2007, 15:39

*shucks*.. cheers guys. Without turning this into a circle jerk... ditto.

There don't seem to be too many around here I would not go shooting with, and I'm kinda fussy.