The firearm thread

[TheDemonLord]

It's funny, all the Databases I manage haven't inadvertently leaked information to the public.

Neither has there been any changes which I didn't Authorise.



But don't worry, a Register will be totally safe and secure.

The best part of this - is those that were intending to hand in their Firearms, the police have virtually guaranteed Non-compliance.

There's a good number of people that should be resigning over such a monumental Cock-up.

[frogfeaturesFZR]

It's funny, all the Databases I manage haven't inadvertently leaked information to the public.

Neither has there been any changes which I didn't Authorise.



But don't worry, a Register will be totally safe and secure.

The best part of this - is those that were intending to hand in their Firearms, the police have virtually guaranteed Non-compliance.

There's a good number of people that should be resigning over such a monumental Cock-up.

Agreed, but personal accountability ?
May as well believe in unicorns.
As an aside, I’m looking forward to the spin on the reason less than 40k firearms / illegal parts will Have been handed in by the deadline.
It’d be amusing, if it wasn’t so chaotic

PS, is it just me, or is David Seymour the only politician showing any common sense ?

[TheDemonLord]

Agreed, but personal accountability ?
May as well believe in unicorns.
As an aside, I’m looking forward to the spin on the reason less than 40k firearms / illegal parts will Have been handed in by the deadline.
It’d be amusing, if it wasn’t so chaotic

PS, is it just me, or is David Seymour the only politician showing any common sense ?

They've already started - the Police have changed their tune from 'no leniancy after December 20th' to 'there's a permenant Amnesty for after December 20th' - Mr Nash has been saying 'oh maybe we over-estimate how many were in circulation'

TL;DR - they are already lying through their teeth to avoid facing the obvious - We are seeing a protest of mass civil disobediance.

And that fills my heart with Joy.

And David Seymour is all good in my book.

[austingtir]

So not only do the gangs potentially have shopping lists of owners homes to go around and obtain illegal firearms.

But theres also the fact the Chinese when they inevitably invade our ass have the names and addresses of half the firearm owner's in NZ.....

We might aswell just all kneel down and welcome our future CCP overlords.

[Swoop]

And they say a Register will be safe....

AND accurate...

Their current register is inaccurate as all fuck, and there are only a limited amount of firearms on that, compared to what it will have to handle IF registration proceeds.
The cock-ups will come through thick and fast. Any government would be well advised to keep well away from such a political hot-potato.

[Danger Mouse]

AND accurate...

Their current register is inaccurate as all fuck, and there are only a limited amount of firearms on that, compared to what it will have to handle IF registration proceeds.
The cock-ups will come through thick and fast. Any government would be well advised to keep well away from such a political hot-potato.

A 66% error rate.

[TheDemonLord]

A 66% error rate.

For a Database of only 15,000 rifles to 7,000 owners.

That's fucking laughable.

[Swoop]

A 66% error rate.

Sounds about right.



Well, I've made a few thousand from them.
Was paid out more than what I spent purchasing the guns and also the magazines. A tidy profit at the taxpayer's expense.

[scumdog]

Except for the smuggled in guns every gun entering the country has required an import licence or permit of some sort.

So in theory the government SHOULD know how many of a particular type of gun are out there.

But they don't


What an unmitigated clustrefuck!

[Laava]

Which govt are to blame for that tho Scummy? It is irrelevant actually but is not the current one. I remember the permit to procure days and when they moved to the current license, that was the time to create a register. Big mistake as it turns out. Very very hard to fix that retrospectively.

[TheDemonLord]

Which govt are to blame for that tho Scummy? It is irrelevant actually but is not the current one. I remember the permit to procure days and when they moved to the current license, that was the time to create a register. Big mistake as it turns out. Very very hard to fix that retrospectively.

Why?

The point about the Import process is because of the repeated Lie of 'we don't know how many are out there'.

And I say lie for a number of reasons:

1: Either they don't know, which if true presents a problem - namely if you are required to issue a permit to import and keep a record of it and you fail to do that, it's impossible to then claim that the same entity will be able to keep a record in another format.

2: They do know, but if they let that slip it partially sinks the registry argument and will show people just how much a full Buy-Back would cost.

Furthermore - As Aoraki ammunition pointed out - The Police knew what Firearms that the Terrorist had - so for all the Registry advocates - please explain how that prevented the Mass Shooting?

[Bonez]

Why hasn't the fuck head been put on trial yet?

I don't think there will be a complete record of every fire arm in the country. Rumour has an increase of the purchase small dia. PVC piping was purchased after the first ban announcement. Hillary Clintons RH man was in NZ two weeks before shootings and Int'l Police exercises were going on in the area at the time of the shooting.

Of course the opportunists made good use of it for a few quick bucks.

[TheDemonLord]

Why hasn't the fuck head been put on trial yet?

I don't think there will be a complete record of every fire arm in the country. Rumour has an increase of the purchase small dia. PVC piping was purchased after the first ban announcement. Hillary Clintons RH man was in NZ two weeks before shootings and Int'l Police exercises were going on in the area at the time of the shooting.

With what the Government did to the E-Cat owners, and the Data Breach of the Buy-back website - there will never be a complete record.

[Katman]

With what the Government did to the E-Cat owners, and the Data Breach of the Buy-back website - there will never be a complete record.

Interesting that you completely ignored the conspiracy angle contained in Bonez's post.

Now if I'd said it.......

[Bonez]

Interesting that you completely ignored the conspiracy angle contained in Bonez's post.

Now if I'd said it.......

Everyone likes a good conspiracy https://cloverchronicle.com/2019/03/...error-attacks/