The firearm thread

[scumdog]

No, not me personally, but if we were to hear the other perspective, unexagerrated/exagerrated in a different slant, it would be a completely different story I bet.
The truth lies , as always, somewhere in between. At that point it is prob a pretty boring and hardly newsworthy story, was my point.

for instance, the first thing I saw that made little sense is the claim that the cops were looking for a magazine, whereas in fact they were looking for an illegal rifle that the complainant had stated he owned but had not clarified that he had disposed of it. That is how I understand it.
Did the cops over-react? Yeah, probably.
Has the complainant got something to whinge about? Not really.

A real fail PR wise for the cops and a colossal waste of resources for no result.

[FJRider]

A real fail PR wise for the cops and a colossal waste of resources for no result.

On the Political agenda it was a great success.

Win win eh ... Oh wait ...

[TheDemonLord]

So, 90% opposition to the Second Tranche of Firearm law changes.

Current indication is that it is going to pass with minor Tweaks.

How is this Democracy?

[scumdog]

So, 90% opposition to the Second Tranche of Firearm law changes.

Current indication is that it is going to pass with minor Tweaks.

How is this Democracy?

It's not even democracys arse - just pure political knee-jerk reaction and grand standing.

Now they're targetting pump action centre-fires - 'death by a thousand cuts' forgun owners.

Hopefully this COL falls on its collective inept falls-promises face in the next election...

[husaberg]

I remember someone saying they would not admit whether they complied with the law regarding their now prohibited AR10 until after Xmas, only they have said sweet f -all about where they have complied with the law and handed it in.
it must be like Trumps tax returns. Or Stevos many viable large scale alternatives to 1080

[Danger Mouse]

I remember someone saying they would not admit whether they complied with the law regarding their now prohibited AR10 until after Xmas, only they have said sweet f -all about where they have complied with the law and handed it in.
it must be like Trumps tax returns. Or Stevos many viable large scale alternatives to 1080

Cool story bro.

[TheDemonLord]

I remember someone saying they would not admit whether they complied with the law regarding their now prohibited AR10 until after Xmas, only they have said sweet f -all about where they have complied with the law and handed it in.
it must be like Trumps tax returns. Or Stevos many viable large scale alternatives to 1080

That's the funny thing about your Memory, it's often wrong.

I never said that.

Here is what I did say, in relation to your question as to whether I had participated in the Buyback or not:

1: It's not a Question you have any right to ask.
2: It's not a Question I have any obligation to answer.
3: You may ask that Question after the 20th of December.

so, since it's after the 20th of December you may ask the question, however, I shall refer you to points 1 and 2.

But because I'm a charitable sort - I shall give you a one time answer, which shall be in it's entirety and not expanded on further:

I did what was right.

[oldrider]

Lots of news about shootings now that all the guns have been handed in to the police - very reassuring to the average citizen - the government is now well in control of firearms. -

[sidecar bob]

Lots of news about shootings now that all the guns have been handed in to the police - very reassuring to the average citizen - the government is now well in control of firearms. -

Yep, feeling so much safer now, knowing that only outlaws have the illegal guns.
Thanks Jacinda.

[husaberg]

Yep, feeling so much safer now, knowing that only outlaws have the illegal guns.
Thanks Jacinda.

You should also thank your local National MP who voted for the law, as well as all of his party?
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-...rorist-attacks
In fact the only MP who didnt vote for it was to busy grandstanding to the news media he forgot to vote against it at one of the readings.
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2019/04/0...y-gun-law-vote
So how is it something all the MP's voted for a law change supported by most of NZ yet in your opinion its is one person fault?
Are National MP's and leadership really that weak that they have to follow a Labour PM lead?

BTW in case you never noticed its always been the criminals that have had the illegal guns......





Same dude had missed other votes as well on climate change as well

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...gh-unanimously

National won’t support the second tranche of gun reform laws because they are soft on “crims, gangs and extremists”.

Really?

Here are the reforms…

Establishing a firearms register
Make owning a gun a “privilege” that comes with obligations
Tighten the rules to obtain and keep a gun licence
Tighten the rules for gun dealers to get and keep a licence
Require licences to be renewed every five years
Not allow visitors to purchase guns in New Zealand
Introduce a new warning system for police so they can intervene if they have concerns about a licence holder’s behaviour
Introduce a licencing system for shooting clubs and ranges
Set up an expert group to advise the police on firearms
Introduce new advertising standards around guns
Require licences to buy magazines, parts and ammunition
Increase penalties and introduce new offences

[sidecar bob]

You should also thank your local National MP who voted for the law, as well as all of his party?
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-...rorist-attacks
In fact the only MP who didnt vote for it was to busy grandstanding to the news media he forgot to vote against it at one of the readings.
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2019/04/0...y-gun-law-vote
So how is it something all the MP's voted for a law change supported by most of NZ yet in your opinion its is one person fault?
Are National MP's and leadership really that weak that they have to follow a Labour PM lead?

BTW in case you never noticed its always been the criminals that have had the illegal guns......


Same dude had missed other votes as well on climate change as well

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...gh-unanimously

Regardless of who loves the cock, or who did or didn't vote, it was a complete waste of time resources in the name of appearing to be doing the right thing in the face of the stupid & gullible.
It's always the bosses fault, end of the day she's leading the charge.
And if it's always criminals that have had the illegal guns, how was this crock of shit ever going to make things any better if we all knew that was going to be the outcome from the get go?

[husaberg]

Regardless of who loves the cock, or who did or didn't vote, it was a complete waste of time resources in the name of appearing to be doing the right thing in the face of the stupid & gullible.

So what you are saying is you admit none of what you said stands up to any scrutiny, especially as you wish to falsely and knowingly attribute blame, yet you wish to inhabit some form of moral high ground. That's some funny ass shit. You should move to Taupo and change your er.. last name

[Bonez]

I'm sure down in bango land there were perfectly law abiding citizens that have/have had unregistered fire arms. Possobly inherited from their gandpappy or other ancestor/family member. Of course they were not availble to Troglodytes.

[sidecar bob]

So what you are saying is you admit none of what you said stands up to any scrutiny especially as you wish to falsely and knowingly attribute blame, yet you wish to inhabit some form of moral high ground. That's some funny ass shit. You should move to Taupo and change your er.. last name

Did you just string a whole lot of uninteligeble claptrap together & suggest i was like someone else, so stupid people might percieve that its me thats on the back foot?

[husaberg]

Did you just string a whole lot of uninteligeble claptrap together & suggest i was like someone else, so stupid people might percieve that its me thats on the back foot?

Yeah so when you attempted to insinuate it was all the Labours Leader fault that the gun laws in NZ were changed.

Y Thanks Jacinda.

it was because you never knew your local MP along with every other National and NZ first and green party Mp voted for the law change?
Or when you said it was only the criminals that had illegal guns you were not aware that this was always the case?

Yep, feeling so much safer now, knowing that only outlaws have the illegal guns.

Or where you just talking crap hoping no one would notice you where spreading a entirely false narrative?
Hint ....You wouldn't have been compared to the "taupo tosser" if it wasn't for the attempt of spreading of the false narrative.
Maybe if it was a mater closer to the inner Mongolian horse riders association Simon may have convinced the National party to vote differently.
Maybe you could donate 125K to the National party and become an MP.