The firearm thread

[Swoop]

I remember when records of weapon serial numbers were recorded with your firearms license.
It was changed to the individual firearms owners not needing permits to acquire more weapons. and a Gun Register was deemed unworkable and impossible to maintain correctly. With the (intended ??) introduction of a Gun register (any word how that is going ... anybody ??) keeping an accurate record of an individuals weapons in their possession (or accessible to them) is now all but impossible.

We have always had a firearm's register.
It records all of the collector's firearms, pistols, MSSA's. Also, it was never accurate.
All the shooters that I know with an endorsed licence have had issues with accuracy of records against their licence. On my last spot-visit by the plod, I had a firearm on my licence which I do not own. "Oh, I'd better update the records then" was the response...

[FJRider]

On my last spot-visit by the plod, I had a firearm on my licence which I do not own. "Oh, I'd better update the records then" was the response...

Sounds familiar ... and in these people the Government are entrusting our security and safety with nationwide gun control ...

[pritch]

In the real world of life in the police station there may be panics from time to time. The cop doing firearms records was taken off that work to assist with the panic du jour, and over time the firearms records fell behind and eventually into disarray. For this reason when John Banks' then new system was introduced, general duties cops were not used, vetters were 'civilians,' although many were retired police.

Since that time things have run more smoothly. Not perfectly of course, humans are involved, but it's years since I've heard a complaint* and I've had none of my own. I'd suggest that some of the complaints arise from a lack of action on the part of the owners, rather than any action on the part of the police.

We'll just have to watch developments with interest. Registering all firearms (except those owned by criminals) will be a massive undertaking.

I might mention that nobody has published details of a case that was solved using registration details.

*Apart from the one in the post above.

[oldrider]

Harrison Hanks - he can play them all? (Specially anti gun crisis false flag shit)

[Swoop]

Since that time things have run more smoothly. Not perfectly of course, humans are involved, but it's years since I've heard a complaint*

There are plenty more. Lots of the club members can attest to that.
Remember that this liarbour government wants complete registration, which will equal far greater quantities of innacurate information, using their past performance as the primary example.
Then they want the firearm owners to pay for it all...

[TheDemonLord]

There are plenty more. Lots of the club members can attest to that.
Remember that this liarbour government wants complete registration, which will equal far greater quantities of innacurate information, using their past performance as the primary example.
Then they want the firearm owners to pay for it all...

Then they expose the details to anyone with a login due to 'an unauthorized Vendor change'

[TheDemonLord]

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/polit...y-failure.html

More Data Breaches.

Only this time, it was covered up because proving the Government to be irresponsible for Firearm Licence data when you are pushing for a Firearm registry would be politically inconvenient.

Not to mention that there is no reason why the Ministry of Culture and Heritage should be holding any Firearm Licence data, especially not on a 3rd party platform.

[FJRider]

… I might mention that nobody has published details of a case that was solved using registration details.

*Apart from the one in the post above.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/cri...ch-for-answers

[austingtir]

[scumdog]

[/IMG]

Top post and so true!

I guess new gun laws have dropped in priority...

[Swoop]

Top post and so true!

I guess new gun laws have dropped in priority...

Presumably the gubbinment has been happy wasting so much money on the confiscation scheme now...

[Swoop]

Well. 100% higher than predicted. How surprising.
That's just the admin costs alone
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12330293

[TheDemonLord]

Not to mention it confirms only a quarter were handed in, there is no evidence that it has made NZ Safer.

[jasonu]

Well. 100% higher than predicted. How surprising.
That's just the admin costs alone
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12330293

Not to mention it confirms only a quarter were handed in, there is no evidence that it has made NZ Safer.

A total fucking joke and no one is any safer because of it.

[TheDemonLord]

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/chr...es-sources-say

So, Stuff is only now just reporting on what Firearm owners have been saying for over a year.

No Licence = No Firearms = No Ammunition = No Shooting.

Everything that was required to prevent the Terrorist attack was in place with the old Rules, the reason it happened was because the Police did not follow their own Rules.

Now we've got proof that the Law changes were based on a Lie, the only moral option is a complete repeal of the Laws that were railroaded through on false information.