View Poll Results: Which firearm types do you own?

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  • Shotgun (single, double, pump, lever, bolt)

    291 31.91%
  • Shotgun Auto (non MSSA)

    96 10.53%
  • Rifle (single, double, pump, lever, bolt)

    408 44.74%
  • Rifle Auto (non MSSA)

    177 19.41%
  • MSSA

    66 7.24%
  • Pistol

    78 8.55%
  • Black powder (rifle, pistol, shotgun)

    35 3.84%
  • Air/Gas (pistol, rifle)

    313 34.32%
  • un-armed

    305 33.44%
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    It is rather interesting that the NZ police are not allowed to provide references to other staff members, if they are renewing their firearms licence.

    It has been deemed a "conflict of interest"...
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    So here we have a case where the bad guy with a gun was actually stopped by a good guy with a gun - and the obvious but tragic consequences.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgNGYND_kwM
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    So here we have a case where the bad guy with a gun was actually stopped by a good guy with a gun - and the obvious but tragic consequences.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgNGYND_kwM
    Yep, tragic, just tragic...
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    This is just sick. I'd assume it's illegal but you know, the First Amendment and all that.

    https://www.newsweek.com/torres-targ...unberg-1608202
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    This is just sick. I'd assume it's illegal but you know, the First Amendment and all that.

    https://www.newsweek.com/torres-targ...unberg-1608202
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    Bad guy with a gun stopped by good guys with... bricks?

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncn...rom%20%251%24s
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    Bad guys with guns miscalculate.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLnN0cGgoPs
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    Seeing photos of blokes open carrying their guns in the USA makes me uneasy. If they are silly enough to do that, they are likely silly enough to do it with the gun in an unsafe condition. One of the Proud Boys leaders attended a demo to abuse the press or similar, and shot himself in the foot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    In a country where you can't burn the flag you are still allowed to sell targets of kids whose views might be unpopular. merica
    It was only illegal until 1969, then the right to burn the flag became protected under the first amendment
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    It was only illegal until 1969, then the right to burn the flag became protected under the first amendment
    Right you are although its only there 5–4 and there is another proposed amendment.
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    The recent fatal shooting accident that occured during filming of the low budget movie "Rust" has attracted a lot of comment most of which is irrelevant because few details are known as yet and the local cops will be making no announcement until Monday their time. The film crew had walked off the job over safety and other concerns prior to the incident. They had been replaced by non-union crew. There had reportedly been two "misfires". Some sources are referring to the misfires as accidental discharges which is a whole nutha thing.

    Baldwin is not popular with US shooters, he is apparently an anti. He also took the piss out of Trump on TV which wouldn't endear him to them either. They are weighing in with a will - even if fact free.

    It's unlikely there will be a single cause of the fatal shot. It's usual for several safety violations to have occurred before a fatality but we'll just have to wait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    Baldwin is not popular with US shooters, he is apparently an anti.
    Not "apparently" an anti, but a fully declared, frothing at the mouth, anti.
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    The biggest gripe I have had with the Alec Baldwin issue is the bad reporting around it.

    Such as referring to it as a Prop Gun (It wasn't, it was a real gun, capable of accepting Live Ammunition)
    Such as referring to it as a Misfire or Accidental Discharge.

    I also don't agree with the treatment of Alec (although understandable, given his opinion on the subject), if you believe you are using a prop gun, that has been given to you by an on-set armorer and you go to use it as part of scene, then it's a Tragic Accident in one sense and a monumental Fuck-Up in another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    The biggest gripe I have had with the Alec Baldwin issue is the bad reporting around it.

    Such as referring to it as a Prop Gun (It wasn't, it was a real gun, capable of accepting Live Ammunition)
    Such as referring to it as a Misfire or Accidental Discharge.

    I also don't agree with the treatment of Alec (although understandable, given his opinion on the subject), if you believe you are using a prop gun, that has been given to you by an on-set armorer and you go to use it as part of scene, then it's a Tragic Accident in one sense and a monumental Fuck-Up in another.


    The reporting is truly abysmal, even though some are trying. It was the Daily Mail I think had illustrations of a live round and something purporting to be a blank round. That information though was incomplete. Movie makers also use something similar to what the army would call a drill round. That's a normal looking round complete with bullet but in Hollywood these should be loosely loaded with shot instead of powder. These are used in head on revolver shots where bullets need to be visible in the chambers. Since it's thought they were using single action revolvers that could apply.

    The Daily Mail, to illustrate a western style pistol, published a picture of a cap and ball revolver. Close but no prize.

    Anything used in filming is a prop. Some prop guns are rubber imitation pistols. Some are deactivated or modified weapons. Others, as in this case, are fully functioning firearms. Incidentally there are some really nice pistols in the old westerns made prior to the repiica market becoming a thing. Genuine antiques were the only option.

    The interchangeable use of the terms misfire and accidental discharge is not helping. If appropriate, the US term negligent discharge would be even better.

    Anecdotally it does seem though that there were multiple major safety lapses. Allegedly none of the normal safety procedures were followed, but we'll have to wait for the detail. The Sheriff now expects to be able to comment on Wednesday their time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    Movie makers also use something similar to what the army would call a drill round. That's a normal looking round complete with bullet but in Hollywood these should be loosely loaded with shot instead of powder. These are used in head on revolver shots where bullets need to be visible in the chambers. Since it's thought they were using single action revolvers that could apply.

    The interchangeable use of the terms misfire and accidental discharge is not helping.
    It is coming to light that production crew mwmbers were "plinking" with live ammunition beforehand. A bad prctice to have live ammo on-set, but this is America/Kalifornia.

    A drill round does not hold powder as it is either solid metal OR has holes drilled in the casing as it is specifically non-fireable.


    It seems strange that another person who was NOT the armourer, handed the firearm to Baldwin and declared it "cold". There seem to be monumental, fatal, cock-ups, involved throughout this production.
    A novice armourer doesn't help the situation. She should have had the ability to draw everyone on-site together at the outset of this location's work and declared it "ZERO live ammo - of ALL types". Leave personal firearms in your vehicles when starting work each day. I doubt she had the confidence to lay down the requirements for a safe environment.
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