The firearm thread

[Mr Merde]

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How dangerous can an air rifle be? I'm not the over protective type, but I like to know the risks.

I have been hunting with an air rifle. It will kill rabbits, birds and possums.

Like all firearms, care needs to be taken. I think its great that someone of his age is being taught to shoot (I was 13 yo when I started) but please make sure the first lesson is the basic safety rules. Check the police web site for the 7 rules of shooting. Bullets or pellets they still are applicable.

A licence is not needed to pocess an air weapon provided the person is over 18. You could keep it locked in a cupboard. At 10 he will definitely only be allowed to use it under supervision.

Merde

[007XX]

I have been hunting with an air rifle. It will kill rabbits, birds and possums.

Like all firearms, care needs to be taken. I think its great that someone of his age is being taught to shoot (I was 13 yo when I started) but please make sure the first lesson is the basic safety rules. Check the police web site for the 7 rules of shooting. Bullets or pellets they still are applicable.

A licence is not needed to pocess an air weapon provided the person is over 18. You could keep it locked in a cupboard. At 10 he will definitely only be allowed to use it under supervision.

Merde

Awesome, thanks for that.

[Wolf]

007, you could supervise your son yourself. A decent solid wooden fence would make a suitable backstop with due care (not shooting over it) or shooting could be done indoors given a long enough room/hallway and a decent protective backstop.

Metal "pellet traps" can be placed directly behind the target as well.

teach proper safety at all times. direct supervision is the key.

[deanohit]

My advice would be to go to the police station and get a copy of the 'arms code', all of you read it and make a test for your son to complete before he gets the rifle. That should give him an idea of the resposibilty of being in possession of an air rifle. It's also good for everyone to know the rules surrounding gun safety. It's not easy to kill some one with an air rifle, but it's very easy to injure some one (and painfull), one of my friends lost an eye when younger after some idiot teens shot at him. As long as you consider him responsible enough to use it safely, let him go for it and have fun.

[007XX]

007, you could supervise your son yourself. A decent solid wooden fence would make a suitable backstop with due care (not shooting over it) or shooting could be done indoors given a long enough room/hallway and a decent protective backstop.

Metal "pellet traps" can be placed directly behind the target as well.

teach proper safety at all times. direct supervision is the key.

I'd like to supervise him myself, but I'd be immediately labelled as the "meddling ex-wife"...I will however get the shooting rules from the police station and make sure I read them with my son.

My advice would be to go to the police station and get a copy of the 'arms code', all of you read it and make a test for your son to complete before he gets the rifle. That should give him an idea of the resposibilty of being in possession of an air rifle. It's also good for everyone to know the rules surrounding gun safety. It's not easy to kill some one with an air rifle, but it's very easy to injure some one (and painfull), one of my friends lost an eye when younger after some idiot teens shot at him. As long as you consider him responsible enough to use it safely, let him go for it and have fun.

Excellent suggestion, thanks.

[Mr Merde]

From the police site.

"
What is an Airgun?

Under the Arms Act 1983, "airgun" includes air rifles, air pistols, BB guns, soft air pellet guns and paintball guns. Essentially, any weapon that has a gas or compressed air firing mechanism is classed as an airgun.
Use of Airguns

• Anyone 18 years of age or older can possess and use an airgun.
• People under 18 years of age may use an airgun if:
• They hold a New Zealand firearms licence* OR
• They are under the IMMEDIATE SUPERVISION of a firearms licence holder or a person 18 years of age or older.
• Anyone under 16 years of age must always be under the IMMEDIATE SUPERVISION of a firearms licence holder or a person 18 years of age or older.

*Note: Note: You must be 16 years of age or older to apply for a New Zealand firearms licence.
"IMMEDIATE SUPERVISION" means that the licensed or older person is within reach and in control of the person using the airgun. The person providing the supervision cannot be in possession or control of another firearm or airgun.
Young Airgun Owners

If you are 16 or 17 you can see the Arms Officer at a Police station about getting a licence. The Arms Officer will give you a free copy of the Arms Code, which is a book about firearm safety.
You will be asked to give the names of 2 people, one a close relative. The Police will ask these people if you are a suitable person to use and possess firearms.
You will also be asked to attend a firearms safety lecture. These lectures are run by instructors from the Mountain Safety Council. Then you sit a written test and, if you pass, the instructor will issue you a certificate. The results of your test will be passed on to the Arms Officer.
If the Arms Officer considers you a fit and proper person they will issue you with your firearms licence.
Safe Storage of Airguns

IMPORTANT: An airgun can cause serious injury if used incorrectly.
When you are not using your airgun, it should be locked away in a safe place inaccessible to children.
Fully Automatic Airguns

Police have warned people who already own fully automatic airguns they are breaking the law unless they have a firearms licence with a Restricted Weapons endorsement. Although the guns are only air powered, their firing mechanism means they are restricted weapons.
They fire hundreds of rounds a minute and some will punch hole in a piece of gib-board in a few seconds.
They are definitely not toys.
If owners of who already own airguns modify their weapons to make them semiautomatic, they would not need to take any further action but if the weapon remains fully automatic, then it is a Restricted Weapon, which means they have to get a firearms licence with the correct endorsement and have secure storage facilities. This concession does not apply to airguns which are not already in New Zealand as at 1 January 2004.
Paintball Airguns

Police do not advocate shooting at any person with an airgun. However, in the case of paintball marker games where the object may be to shoot your opponents, strict safety guidelines must be adhered to.
Organised games and competitions are available in New Zealand, usually at commercial game fields. The operators of these fields adhere to a voluntary code of practice, including the application of strict safety measures.
More information is available from the New Zealand Paintball Players Association Incorporated. e-mail: info@paintball.gen.nz
Set up a Range

To get the most fun out of your airgun, in a safe and responsible way, set up a properly constructed range in your backyard or basement. Your range must have a backstop like a solid fence or wall and no one should be able to walk between the target and your airgun while you are shooting.
There should be a "pellet trap", such as a cardboard box full of sand, with the target fixed to it.
Thought should be given to where the pellet will go if it misses the target or ricochets off paths, walls and other hard surfaces.
Penalties

You will have to be responsible about how you use your airgun, otherwise you could face stiff penalties.

• If you carry an airgun or even possess it without a lawful purpose, you could be fined $4000 and/or imprisoned for up to 3 years.
• Careless use of an airgun may bring a fine of $4000 and /or up to 3 years in prison.
• Firing an airgun in a way that may endanger, annoy or frighten anyone or harm property could mean you are fined $3000 and/or are imprisoned for up to 3 months.
• For unlawfully pointing an airgun at someone, you could be fined $1000 and/or spend up to 3 years in prison.
• If you sell or supply an airgun to an unlicensed person under 18, you could be fined $1000 and /or imprisoned for up to 3 months. This could happen when an adult buys a child an airgun as a gift.

The 7 Basic Rules of Firearm Safety

1. Treat every firearm as loaded
2. Always point firearms in a safe direction
3. Load a firearm only when ready to fire
4. Identify your target
5. Check your firing zone
6. Store firearms and ammunition safely
7. Avoid alcohol or drugs when handling firearms "

I hope this helps

Merde

[Delerium]

http://www.thebriefingroom.com/archi...bate.html#more

I think it makes him look uable to prove viable evidence that backs his claims. When the figures are about to disprove his argument he refuses to get into debate. Like interviewing a 12 year old.

[Delerium]

Regarding the airgun.. I was introduced to them at about that age too. Always under the instruction of my dad. Later on I used them to shoot pests. Some are getting fairly powerful these days and many are capable of causing injury or even death to people. They are not toys.

[007XX]

Cheers guys... I really appreciate the feedback. I've printed up the rules and will be going over them with my son as soon as the present has been given to him.

[deanohit]

Cool, should be fun fun for you all.Like Wolf said, with a pellet trap (from a hunting store) you could easily have a range in your back yard as long as there is a solid fence behind for any wild shots.

[Mr Merde]

Cheers guys... I really appreciate the feedback. I've printed up the rules and will be going over them with my son as soon as the present has been given to him.

google the following

NZ Firearms


it will give you alink to the police firearms pages and you can download a copy of the Arms Code.

Its 35 pages. Small enough to print off.

For a 10 year old it wouold be intereseting as it is full of diagrams and pictures.

[Wolf]

For a 10 year old it wouold be intereseting as it is full of diagrams and pictures.

And clarifies each of the 7 rules with "for instances"

[007XX]

google the following

NZ Firearms


it will give you alink to the police firearms pages and you can download a copy of the Arms Code.

Its 35 pages. Small enough to print off.

For a 10 year old it wouold be intereseting as it is full of diagrams and pictures.

And clarifies each of the 7 rules with "for instances"

Will do, thanks...Even if he's young, he's actually quite level headed, so I know he'll take it on board.

[Wolf]

Will do, thanks...Even if he's young, he's actually quite level headed, so I know he'll take it on board.

I was way younger than his age when I was given a thorough grounding in firearms safety and use. Kids can take safety pretty seriously on occasions.

[007XX]

I was way younger than his age when I was given a thorough grounding in firearms safety and use. Kids can take safety pretty seriously on occasions.

Oh he does...I'm just worried about how it is going to be taught to him, that's all.

Anyway, I'll let you blokes get back on topic. Thanks a whole bunch for your help. you guys are champs!!!!