The firearm thread

**Wolf** · 26th November 2007, 21:27

Had the bloke turn up to talk to my wife and I about my licence renewal on Saturday. Passed the test questions - 100% (hardly surprising) and he seemed well pleased with my answers to his other questions.

Got a call from my other referee on Sunday to say the bloke had spoken with him and seemed well pleased so my new licence should be arriving soon.

Big ups to my referees for their help getting the legalities out of the way.

**mud boy** · 1st December 2007, 17:44

Ive been shot with a gun by my mate with an........air rifle
it hurt alot lol and left a big blue mark on me

**Wolf** · 1st December 2007, 18:58

Originally Posted by mud boy

Ive been shot with a gun by my mate with an........air rifle
it hurt alot lol and left a big blue mark on me

Shot myself point blank in the hand with a CO2-powered air pistol once.

Only ever the once.

Serious object lesson in "treat every firearm as if loaded".

Worse, I deliberately pointed it at my hand and squeezed the trigger to test what the CO2 pressure was like.

It was one of those Crosman revolvers with the six-slug revolving cylinder - CO2 bottle hidden in the revolver grip.

I'd fired 6 shots at the target, dry fired twice - could definitely hear the first six fires had a slug up the spout and the last two were through an empty barrel - and the pressure sounded like it was geting low so I pointed it at my left hand and fired to see how much of a blast was coming out of the muzzle.

Instead, I wound up with a slug embedded up to its waist in my palm - had to pick it out of the hole with my fingernails. Fuck, it hurt.

Only thing I could figure was that for some reason, one of the slugs had failed to exit the cylinder when I was firing and then did so when I fired it for a ninth time.

A while later, my uncle and I stripped the pistol and discovered that the grub screw that secures the barrel inside the frame was loose, allowing the end of the barrel nearest the cylinder to shift.

We figure that on the third shot, the barrel had shifted slightly, trapping the slug in the cylinder and still giving that distinctive sound of a pellet being fired. The barrel shifted back into position for the following shots then I dry-fired through chambers 1 and 2, bringing it back around to 3 - still with a chambered slug and now correctly aligned with the barrel - when I fired it into my hand.

Absolute stupidity and carelessness on my part and a lesson well learned - but fortunately with little damage.

Saw a bloke shot in the elbow with an air rifle once - the worrying thing was that I was between him and the mate of his that fired the air rifle. The pellet must've missed my stomach by millimetres.

**Swoop** · 3rd December 2007, 10:19

Originally Posted by Wolf

Big ups to my referees for their help getting the legalities out of the way.

It is this system, of having to provide referees, that some overseas countries would be wise to adopt. It is a [small] hassle to go through, but the system itself is a sensible one.
Glad to hear that it all went well!

**Wolf** · 3rd December 2007, 11:43

Originally Posted by Swoop

It is this system, of having to provide referees, that some overseas countries would be wise to adopt. It is a [small] hassle to go through, but the system itself is a sensible one.
Glad to hear that it all went well!

Especially as they are put through the ringer about your nature, character, likelihood of violence, sort of people you associate with etc etc.

A skilled interviewer should be able to spot if a referee is lying or does not know the applicant very well, especially when they are given questions that give the potential for conflicting answers.

I think it works quite well and the interviewer certainly must have walked away with a clear conviction that my referees know me quite well.

**davereid** · 15th December 2007, 08:17

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7pGt_O1uM8

**0arbreaka** · 26th December 2007, 23:57

Does anyone know where I can get some paracord or something along those lines? Making myself a lanyard for my new knife so i dont lose it.

**Smokin** · 27th December 2007, 08:43

Mitre 10 has a huge range of cords and ropes here, Could be worth a visit to them.

**Swoop** · 27th December 2007, 19:27

Originally Posted by 0arbreaka

Does anyone know where I can get some paracord or something along those lines? Making myself a lanyard for my new knife so i dont lose it.

I have some 2 metre long pieces of gutted 550Lb nylon paracord, if that is of use?

**Delerium** · 29th December 2007, 18:06

let me know how much you want

**Mr Merde** · 3rd January 2008, 20:20

Trying to empty out my collection a bit.

This weekend I will be putting on trademe the following;

M1 Carbine

Reloading Dies

Approx 700 brass .30 Carbine

Bullet Mould (Lee 2 cavity 120gn GC)

Bandolier with some stripper clips and papers.

Anyone here interested then pm me.

Carbine is A cat with a 5 round mag

**0arbreaka** · 3rd January 2008, 22:18

Originally Posted by Mr Merde

Trying to empty out my collection a bit.

This weekend I will be putting on trademe the following;

M1 Carbine

Reloading Dies

Approx 700 brass .30 Carbine

Bullet Mould (Lee 2 cavity 120gn GC)

Bandolier with some stripper clips and papers.

Anyone here interested then pm me.

Carbine is A cat with a 5 round mag

How much you after? Been looking at getting a mossberg 590 GR Hbar, but if the carbine is a better deal I could be tempted...

**doc** · 4th January 2008, 06:59

Need an answer. We need to know 7mm.08 Winchester 139gr. Where should the POI be at 50m if I want it zero for 100m. I.E. If I'm aiming at the centre of the target at 50 m where should the group form . Ta

**Mr Merde** · 4th January 2008, 08:18

Originally Posted by doc

Need an answer. We need to know 7mm.08 Winchester 139gr. Where should the POI be at 50m if I want it zero for 100m. I.E. If I'm aiming at the centre of the target at 50 m where should the group form . Ta

Hope this helps

Range	Drop	Drop	Windage	Windage	Velocity	Mach	Energy	Time	Lead	Lead
Calculated Table
(yds)	(in)	(moa)	(in)	(moa)	(ft/s)	(none)	(ft•lbs)	(s)	(in)	(moa)
0	-1.5	***	0.0	***	3000.0	2.687	2777.3	0.000	0.0	***
50	-0.2	-0.4	0.1	0.3	2902.2	2.599	2599.1	0.051	8.9	17.1
100	-0.0	-0.0	0.6	0.6	2806.5	2.514	2430.6	0.103	18.2	17.4
150	-0.9	-0.6	1.4	0.9	2713.0	2.430	2271.3	0.158	27.8	17.7
200	-2.9	-1.4	2.5	1.2	2621.3	2.348	2120.4	0.214	37.7	18.0
250	-6.2	-2.4	3.9	1.5	2531.6	2.267	1977.7	0.272	47.9	18.3
300	-10.9	-3.5	5.7	1.8	2443.6	2.189	1842.6	0.333	58.5	18.6
350	-17.0	-4.6	7.9	2.2	2357.3	2.111	1714.8	0.395	69.5	19.0
400	-24.7	-5.9	10.5	2.5	2272.8	2.036	1594.1	0.460	80.9	19.3
450	-34.1	-7.2	13.6	2.9	2190.0	1.961	1480.0	0.527	92.8	19.7
500	-45.3	-8.6	17.1	3.3	2108.8	1.889	1372.3	0.597	105.1	20.1
550	-58.4	-10.1	21.0	3.6	2029.4	1.818	1270.9	0.669	117.8	20.5
600	-73.7	-11.7	25.5	4.1	1951.8	1.748	1175.5	0.745	131.1	20.9
650	-91.2	-13.4	30.5	4.5	1876.0	1.680	1086.1	0.823	144.9	21.3
700	-111.2	-15.2	36.0	4.9	1802.2	1.614	1002.3	0.905	159.2	21.7
750	-133.9	-17.0	42.2	5.4	1730.5	1.550	924.1	0.990	174.2	22.2
800	-159.5	-19.0	49.0	5.8	1661.0	1.488	851.4	1.078	189.8	22.7
850	-188.2	-21.1	56.4	6.3	1593.9	1.428	783.9	1.170	206.0	23.1
900	-220.4	-23.4	64.5	6.8	1529.2	1.370	721.6	1.266	222.9	23.7
950	-256.2	-25.8	73.3	7.4	1467.3	1.314	664.4	1.367	240.5	24.2
1000	-296.2	-28.3	82.9	7.9	1408.3	1.261	612.0	1.471	258.9	24.7

**Mr Merde** · 10th January 2008, 08:26

Couldnt sleep much last night so I got up at 4-30am.

Sitting in the lounge I knew I would nod off again so I decided to go for a walk in the fields around the house. (This was about 5 am and I have to leave for work at 7:15am)

Naturally I grabbed a rifle to carry with me. This time my competition carbine, a Rossi M92 in .44 mag but loaded with black powder under a 205gn lead projectile.

Also carried a pair of binoculars.

15 min later I'm scanning the hills and spot what I think are a couple of bunnies.

Approach is slow and I get to about 50 metres from these animals and it turns out they are hares.

I stop, settle down and get relaxed. Sight on the first hare and pull the trigger. Black powder doesnt have that crack of the modern propellant so the animals werent as spooked. Hare I fired out hasnt moved but the other one is squatted down. I wait a few min and the 2nd hare stretches a bit so up with the carbine and bang. Hare does a flip and just drops to the ground.

I walk down the hill to get the animal and the first still hasnt moved.

My first shot had nailed this hare straight through the heart and lungs. Didnt even know it was dead. The 2nd hare was taken with a similar shot but becuase it was moving at the time it had jumped about a metre.

Never shot a hare before.

Big buggers arent they?

about 3-4 time the size of a rabbit.

Took these two animals home and have now hung them from the rafters in my garage. When I get home tonight I will skin and gut them both.

Gotta find a nice recipe for hare. Any suggestions.

I've heard they are real nice to eat.

I've been going out at various times of the day for the past 2 weeks and these are the first hares I have managed to get. Seen them lots of times but never had the oppotunity to take a safe shot at them (I'm very concious of where I am shooting all the time).

So now I have taken wild turkeys from the area and hares. Supplimenting my diet with wild game cant be bad for me.

Slowly building my fitness back up so I can once again go back out after wild pig and deer.

Chris