The firearm thread

**jrandom** · 29th July 2008, 12:58

Originally Posted by Swoop

#2. A firearm is something that pokes out a bit of lead from the front end. A weapon can be anything (rock/club/knife/pointed stick, etc).

Correct.

Don't ever go to Central Shooters and refer to a pistol as a 'weapon' within hearing range of an RO.

The subsequent bollocking inevitably lasts a solid sixty seconds, and you will be stared and sniggered at.

**ManDownUnder** · 29th July 2008, 13:04

Originally Posted by jrandom

Correct.

Don't ever go to Central Shooters and refer to a pistol as a 'weapon' within hearing range of an RO.

The subsequent bollocking inevitably lasts a solid sixty seconds, and you will be stared and sniggered at.

So... a pistol is not a weapon?

**Wolf** · 29th July 2008, 13:06

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

So... a pistol is not a weapon?

Not on a range it isn't - against range rules to use it as a weapon.

**ManDownUnder** · 29th July 2008, 13:10

Originally Posted by Wolf

Not on a range it isn't - against range rules to use it as a weapon.

Meh... guess that's why I restrict my time at the range.

Col - here's the stainless version of what I have. Mr Merde put me onto these things and they're faultless. Cheap (I bought mine for $450) and HEAPS of fun. I took it bunny shooting in Alexandra 2 years running, God only knows how many rounds through it and it just keeps loading and shooting, loading and shooting. If I smashed mine tomorrow I wouldn't bother looking for anything else unless I took up trap shooting.

Made by Winchester, search for "Defender" or 1300 in the shotgun section on TM.

Come and have a play if the weather's ok tomorrow...

**jrandom** · 29th July 2008, 13:11

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

So... a pistol is not a weapon?

Not on a range in New Zealand it's not.

The whole law surrounding our ability to own and use pistols depends on them not being seen as weapons.

I agree that that's fundamentally bollocks, and that pistol shooting is, in its essence, a martial art, but we can't just go around displaying attitudes that openly contradict politically-correct doublethink. It'd give shooters a bad name, etc.

**ManDownUnder** · 29th July 2008, 13:16

Originally Posted by jrandom

...but we can't just go around displaying attitudes that openly contradict politically-correct doublethink. It'd give shooters a bad name, etc.

aaaa roger that. Sorry - I forgot to take PCness into account (sounds remarkably like Penis doesn't it - an apt association for the bunch of PC dicks making the rules...).

... as you were.

**Mr Merde** · 29th July 2008, 13:16

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

So... a pistol is not a weapon?

In these days of "political correctness" we are not allowed weapons.

In the olden days yes a pistol was a weapon but today it is a pice of sporting equipment.

Its just like the stupid rules about targets. We are not allowed to use anything that in any way may resemble the human form as it may encourage our violent nature and turn us all "postal"

**ManDownUnder** · 29th July 2008, 13:21

Originally Posted by Mr Merde

...and turn us all "postal"

Hence the rule about not being allowed to post enabled firearms. It's not the bad guys they're worried about - it's rearming the postal workers!

Oh - by the way... you're the reason I keep getting myterious and questionable entries on my VISA statement. Why just last week there was one about something called a "Universal Charge bar and powder baffle"...

... go figure. Just waiting for it to arrive as we speak. We're having some fun my little MEC and I.

**Wolf** · 29th July 2008, 13:39

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

here's the stainless version of what I have.

Noice! I remember when you were only allowed to have 2 shots maximum for "sportsmanship" reasons (to give the ducks a fair chance, I gather) and pumps and semis had to have pins in the mags to stop you cramming more than 2 rounds in.

**Mr Merde** · 29th July 2008, 13:41

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

Hence the rule about not being allowed to post enabled firearms. It's not the bad guys they're worried about - it's rearming the postal workers!

Oh - by the way... you're the reason I keep getting myterious and questionable entries on my VISA statement. Why just last week there was one about something called a "Universal Charge bar and powder baffle"...

... go figure. Just waiting for it to arrive as we speak. We're having some fun my little MEC and I.

MEC is your friend

Dont tell your good lady where I live. Please!!!

Go the Universal Charge Bar

**Mr Merde** · 30th July 2008, 10:09

I've had a couple of pm's since my post about how a shotgun gets known as a 12 guage etc.

I thought I would ask a little question here and see if anyone on this site knows the answer.

Why does a .357 Magnum and a .38 spl use the same size bullet?

Why is the actual bore of a .44 mag and .44 spl, .429? Surely they should be called a .42 mag and a .42 spl or even a .43

As a hint think historically.

Bling to a good answer

**The Pastor** · 30th July 2008, 10:26

where is ur post of how a shotgun gets known as a 12 gauge? edit found it.

**jrandom** · 30th July 2008, 12:21

Originally Posted by Mr Merde

Why is the actual bore of a .44 mag and .44 spl, .429? Surely they should be called a .42 mag and a .42 spl or even a .43

Is it something to do with whether the bore's calibre is measured from the lands or the grooves?

I did know this at one point, but buggered if I can remember what the story really is.

**Mr Merde** · 30th July 2008, 13:22

Originally Posted by jrandom

Is it something to do with whether the bore's calibre is measured from the lands or the grooves?

I did know this at one point, but buggered if I can remember what the story really is.

No its not where the bore is measured from.

Big hint.

Its in the cartridge