The firearm thread

[Mr Merde]

No. The M-14 cannot be converted back to original spec' select fire without the lug under the receiver still being in place and also having the transfer bar in your posession. Both were removed to comply with our regulations.

I used to own a Norinco M-14, many years ago. A decent, heavy rifle. Lovely piece of work!

Thanks for clarifying that for me.

I'm jealous. You used to own one and I want to own one. How does one do a miserable emoticon?

Mr

[Sniper]

Each to their own. I found this an interesting read even though I don't really bother with stuff like this

http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles2/ayoob85.html

[Mr Merde]

Each to their own. I found this an interesting read even though I don't really bother with stuff like this

http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles2/ayoob85.html

So did I. Great read. Massad Ayoob is one of the top US competition shooters and has written a lot of articles etc on pistol shooting. I've used his works in aiding me to find out where I had been screwing up.

Sniper you have saved me a lot of writing and for this I thank you. Never been too good at putting down in words what is running through my head.

To all of you who have been reading the stuff I have been writing, please go to this site.

I am always around lurking on this thread so I am available for particular questions if needed.

There are so many of these septics that I have listened top. Gerry Mikiluk was a particular favourite. A revolver specialist. I watched this man start with his revolver holstered, draw, fire 6 shots, reload, fire 6 more shot, reload and then fire a final 6 shots. 18 rounds in total, 2 reloads (from speedloaders) and from the holster. Target was 15 meters away. All rounds were in the black. Total time taken from memory was about 10 seconds.

There is a young lad in the US who shoots in CAS. Goes by the name of Lead Dispenser. Recently I watched a video of him speed shooting two single action pistols, each loaded with 5 rounds and starting with both pistols holstered. Target was a steel plate about 10 meters away. Total time taken approx 4 seconds. Thats 10 shots with each one in single action.

Take a look at this site and some of the videos on it.

http://www.jspublications.net/records/records.html.

Mr

[Sniper]

Cheers Mr

Bloody good site, cheers mate

[Wolf]

Each to their own. I found this an interesting read even though I don't really bother with stuff like this

http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles2/ayoob85.html

Cheers, Sniper, I'd read this article before and found it bloody handy.

When I first went to the pistol club I was told to use the "quail grip" but I found it very inaccurate. I read the above article and tried Mr Ayoob's suggestion for a firm grip and found it much better - stabilised my wrist and arm as well (this was using air pistols and soft air pistols at home so recoil, muzzle flip etc weren't issues but the change in the way the pistol felt and my body worked was dramatic and my accuracy improved).

[Mumbles]

Been shooting pistols for about 9 years
Here’s my 2cents

Wish I had started with some UIT (never have maybe never will) would have given me better grounding in how to aim

Shoot as many different guns during club days as you can, most members will let you shoot their gun with factory ammo, the more guns YOU shoot the better your ability to understand what you like and be able to make decisions based on your own experience and not someone else’s.

What discipline do you want to shoot? UIT, IPSC, ACTION etc can decide what gun you buy, one gun can do all of these 9mm Glocks are a nice medium.(errr glocks)

Caliber of you gun has its pros and cons like making power factor, the size of the hole in the target (this can be a big plus for the older shooter who finds smaller holes harder to see ) this can also reflect the cost to buy or reload so effects the total cost of your shooting experience.

Capacity of your gun, bigger the mag in IPSC and Action the better your times most of the guys shooting race guns (like the old STI) have 20 – 30 round mag’s shooting large courses of fire they don’t have to make lots of mag changes, if your shooting a single stack 45 your going to have 7, 9 and or 10 round mags you going to have a few mag changes (this is fun but wont help your times)

I shoot IPSC and have gone from a 9mm CZ75 to a Para P16 40 the only reason I stopped shooting the CZ was I’m left handed and needed the ambi safety as had to change my grip to take it off, the Para is 40 cal has the ambi safety 16 rounds and make major. (oh yeah, and it was handed to me as I walked into the gun store and told “here take this we need to get it off our license so we can import our next shipment” “well just put it on your account and pay it off” (I had shot the 40 and liked it) now wish I had purchased the Para 45 as my eye sight is getting worse and having trouble seeing the holes in the targets or more so not seeing when I miss the target.

All this talk about grip…. Just ask lots of questions read and check out the net, get lots of ideas then see what works on the range, when you find something that works get someone who you feel is a good competitive shooter and asked them to watch you shoot, they will be able to give you pointers.

Breathing? When your running around the range shooting IPSC it’s a real good idea to breath

DON’T practice bad habits as you will learn them, keep asking ‘stupid’ questions as the more answers you get the better…. And there is no such thing as a stupid question!

#1 Rule. For GODS SAKE BE SAFE ON THE RANGE!

[Mr Merde]

Mumbles,

Great have another pistol shooter with us. Its bloody hard to try and explain in words what I just do. Thanks for the help.

The rest of you.

I've got two days of very quick training to do. Just been invited to the Auckland Pistol Club on Sunday for a "Steel Challenge"> They have a CAS (Cowboy Action Shooting) section and want a few of us to join in. Never shot this event before so it should be fun.

From what I have been told there are 7 stages. Each stage has 5 steel targets at varios distances and they must be shot in an order. You have 5 runs at each stage and your worst time is discarded. So in all about 245 rounds of ammo to be used in the day. I happen to have 265 rounds left. A mixed bag of 210 black powder loaded .44 mag and 55 .44 smokeless.

Its a go.

Nothing like burnibg powder as fast as possible in a competition.

Western costume a prerequisite for us of course.

Should be great fun as it will be something almost new.

Yahoo,, Cowboys rule.

Where else can a grown man dress up as a cowboy, shoot real guns, shout ridiculously, AND NOT GET ARRESTED?

[Swoop]

Where else can a grown man dress up as a cowboy, shoot real guns, shout ridiculously, AND NOT GET ARRESTED?

This is the area of most concern with the CASS people...
That, AND the fact that they have to go around calling themselves by "period" names...
Quite strange.




A piece of advice re: shooting irons for any discipline.
Purchase the best/most accurate handgun that you can afford. Reduce the chances of "the metal bit" being the inaccurate part of the chain. I have seen good shooters being disillusioned by their tool. <---Hmm, perhaps I should rephrase that?

[Mr Merde]

.........That, AND the fact that they have to go around calling themselves by "period" names...


Quite strange.




A piece of advice re: shooting irons for any discipline.
Purchase the best/most accurate handgun that you can afford. Reduce the chances of "the metal bit" being the inaccurate part of the chain. I have seen good shooters being disillusioned by their tool. <---Hmm, perhaps I should rephrase that?

"period" names are strange, took a while to get used to this aspect.

Is it any stranger than signing onto an electronic chat group with a name like Mr Merde or even Swoop?





I agree with buying the best firearm you can afford. You pay for what you get.

[Swoop]

"period" names are strange, took a while to get used to this aspect.

Is it any stranger than signing onto an electronic chat group with a name like Mr Merde or even Swoop?

Quite true, I was keeping this in mind while writing that post!
The thing is calling yourself "Doc Holliday", "Billy The Kid," etc seems a little odd, especially when the owner of the moniker may look nothing like the person portrayed.

Perhaps Swoop The Kid or Doc Merde might stroll into town?

[Mr Merde]

Quite true, I was keeping this in mind while writing that post!
The thing is calling yourself "Doc Holliday", "Billy The Kid," etc seems a little odd, especially when the owner of the moniker may look nothing like the person portrayed.

Perhaps Swoop The Kid or Doc Merde might stroll into town?

Swoop the Kid and Doc Merde, I like it.

I actually agree that using historical names is pretencious. It galls me to see some of the CAS boys struting around because they have adopted the name of some famous personality.

There is one that springs to mind who has adopted the name of a Confederate General. He almost had a fit when I started mentioning that this particular general was lucky not to have been cashiered after the battle of Gettysburg as Gen. Robert E Lee put a lot of blame on him for not doing his job. Cavalry were the eyes and ears of armies in those days and this General just went his own way leaving Lee blind.

This dick in CAS swaggers around in costume of a general and loves the sound of his own voice.

ANyway

DOC Merde has work to do for 5 min.

[Wolf]

I actually agree that using historical names is pretencious. It galls me to see some of the CAS boys struting around because they have adopted the name of some famous personality.

Parodising them (Doc Merde, Jimmy the Kid etc) or using "period names" as in picking names that were popular at the time (William/Bill/Billy, Samuel/Sam, Joshua, George, James etc) would be fine, and perhaps doing a mix 'n' match to get full names - William Earp, James Cody or whatever - would be all right, but pinching the real name of a famous person (outside of going to a "Come as Your Favourite Historical Character" costume party or performing in a period play/movie) is downright pretentious.

Kind of reminds me of all the New Agers I know who all used to be Alexander the Great in a previous life - I'm beginning to wonder how many "souls" the chap had, considering all these people are concurrently alive... No wonder he had the moniker "the Great" - by my calculation he was at least 23 guys (and girls, apparently) rolled into one!

If I were into the CAS crowd I'd come up with a name like "Apache Jim", hinting that I have something like Buffalo Bill's reputation vis a vis killing Apaches and James/Jim being a common name in that era.

I do the same with SCA/NAAMA personas.

[Mr Merde]

A lot of my mates in the CAS game have tried to come up with semi humourous names.

One friend uses the name "one Eye" because he only has ....

Another, Patrick, calls himseld "Cow Pat"

These and similar I can put up with. Even names like "wyatt Burp" are fun but to call yourself William Cody or Pat Garrett to me seems wrong.

Anyway enough of my griping

Back to the shooting.


Any one out there ever shot a "Steel Callenge" match?

If so what can I expect? Hints, tips would be appreciated.


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[jrandom]

By the way, chaps, I'm following this discussion with great interest. I don't have time at the moment to contribute, but once things have settled down with the new business I'm sure I'll manage better

[Swoop]

Any one out there ever shot a "Steel Callenge" match?

If so what can I expect? Hints, tips would be appreciated.

I cannot claim to have shot a full nationals/regional competition of Steel Challenge, but all of the stages have been done at club level.

Expect a hell of a lot of standing around and then a brief amount of time "after the beep"...
If the ranges are good (like Hamilton) then you will get through much faster.
There is no right or wrong way to approach each stage http://www.steelchallenge.com/steelc...006/stages.htm as it is a bit of a puzzle that can be tackled in differing manners by each competitor.

I favour right to left, if possible, but each to their own. I have enjoyed NRA matches greatly and these take my preference if the choice exists.

As with each match, be set up well ahead of time and everything ready to go. It never fails to amaze me with those who show up and go into panic mode over little things. The sport is a mind game, and you must be prepared and relaxed. Stretching exercises are important, particularly at the beginning of the day.

Sorry, rambling on. Will stop now!