The firearm thread

[Indiana_Jones]

Forget a military rifle if accuracy is number one.

Get a nice .223.

I hear Savage are pretty good for value

Edit: I see you linked to a Savage Stevens rifle. See if you can get one with the accu-trigger, it's adjustable

-Indy

[Indiana_Jones]

http://www.sportwaysgunshed.co.nz/vi...ategory=Savage

the Savage 10FP (2nd from the top on that page) is on my list of wanted toys.

Held one in the shop, pure target rifle stuff, dragunov stock, adjustable tripper and the over-sized bolt.

Nice and heavy too, like my BSA International

-Indy

[wbks]

What's the point of an adjustable trigger? Wouldn't you just want one as light as possible without accidental firing?

[jono035]

Personal preference? Some are adjustable for take-up and overtravel too... Depends on what you're using the gun for too, bench rest target shooting, lightest possible, hunting is a different story altogether...

[Indiana_Jones]

Personal preference? Some are adjustable for take-up and overtravel too... Depends on what you're using the gun for too, bench rest target shooting, lightest possible, hunting is a different story altogether...

What he said

-Indy

[jono035]

Cheers Indy!

The .22 bolt action I use for rabbits/possums (and an incredibly optimistic pot-shot at a passing stoat once!) has a pretty heavy trigger, could beat it against a tree while loaded without it firing, but then again I take a lot of friends/family out shooting who don't have all that much familiarity with guns, so the more deliberate the shot has to be the better. If I had my target .22 out there it'd be a bit scary... hair trigger semi auto = recipe for a .22 bullet in the rump.

[Swoop]

No autos allowed at all as far as I know, not even on collectors licenses.


...seems to indicate that you can own full-autos on a collectors license... It may be that you are unable to actually fire the weapons held on a collectors license... Can't remember the distinction.

A bonafied collector who has a "C" category endorsement to his/her licence may own such firearms. For storage, a vital part has to be removed to render the firearm inoperable.
You are not permitted to fire the firearm.

[wbks]

Just out of curiousity... If you were to reload something like a 308 or even a 300 win magnum, would you still spend more than factory 223 ammo?

[Mr Merde]

Just out of curiousity... If you were to reload something like a 308 or even a 300 win magnum, would you still spend more than factory 223 ammo?

I havent bought factory ammo for so long now I have no idea of the cost of a round.

If you take out the cost of the brass as this accounts for 3/4 of the price of a round but after the initial purchase you can probably use it 20-30 times depending on loading.

The cost of a primer is about 2 cents

The cost of the powder used would be something similar but lets just estimate it higher at 5 cents

the bullet itself probably will cost you about 50 cents

Therefore a round of .308 will cost approximately 57 cents

So how much is .223 ammo

Now to throw mud into the equation.

Factory ammo is loaded to a standard.

+- 5% of weight, velocity etc

When reloading your own you can work to much higher tolerances than would be ecconomical for a factory.

By reducing thewse tolerances you are making the round a lot more accurate than the factory, that is once you find the best one that workd for you particular firearm.

I reload .44 mag a lot.

I also cast my own bullets.

I can make 300 rounds of reloads for less than the price of a box of 50 factory loads by about 60% of the faqctory price.

Once you start working out the cost of all the equipment and how long iot would take you to recoup your expenditure then there isnt a lot of difference until you start using high volumes of ammo.

If you reload you will start shooting more, I can almost guaeantee it.

Chris

[wbks]

.308 (cheapest) and 300 win mag -49.95. If you're right, 20 reloaded rounds would be $11 something. Remington 223 is only $20 factory, though

[ManDownUnder]

Anyone in Auckland got a .22 Youth Rifle my little man could have a crack with. It'll be a few weeks till we're ok to try it out but any loaners would be appreciated and I promise it'll come back as clean or cleaner than when you part with it.

[Mr Merde]

Anyone in Auckland got a .22 Youth Rifle my little man could have a crack with. It'll be a few weeks till we're ok to try it out but any loaners would be appreciated and I promise it'll come back as clean or cleaner than when you part with it.

PM'd you.

Winchester .22 pump action gallery rifle.

Lovely shooter with no recoil

1912 model

Takedown.

Chris

[jono035]

If you're after cheap shooting, then getting something like a .308 and loading lower-power rounds could work too, makes the brass last longer and not require trimming if you're keen on doing it to a really tight budget...

[Indiana_Jones]

Anyone in Auckland got a .22 Youth Rifle my little man could have a crack with. It'll be a few weeks till we're ok to try it out but any loaners would be appreciated and I promise it'll come back as clean or cleaner than when you part with it.

Well I have a 1970's TOZ 17-01 the lad could use.

5 shot bolt action with detachable mag (don't loose it though, they're impossible to find lol), can loan it with a Tasco scope or leave it iron sights

-Indy

[geoffm]

Anyone in Auckland got a .22 Youth Rifle my little man could have a crack with. It'll be a few weeks till we're ok to try it out but any loaners would be appreciated and I promise it'll come back as clean or cleaner than when you part with it.

Got a single shot Savage 3B and 3C somehere with iron sights.
Nice and light,and small.
I assume you have a firearms license....