The firearm thread

**geoffm** · 30th August 2009, 21:50

Originally Posted by jono035

My figuring is a few lightweight targets for rimfires only would be good mixed with some heavy plate that'll stand up to a fair few rounds from that rowdy bastard with the Moisin, all swingers. Can get some steel strap or thin steel bar and bolt it onto the targets for ease. Even a solid and impenetrable target should make a good clang when hit...

I have the tools and welders, if anyone can get their ands on some 10mm + plate and wants to help.
I may have some 8mm plate in the workshop, but thicker is better. May even have some 25mm

**The Pastor** · 30th August 2009, 21:55

Originally Posted by geoffm

I have the tools and welders, if anyone can get their ands on some 10mm + plate and wants to help.
I may have some 8mm plate in the workshop, but thicker is better. May even have some 25mm

you offering to carry the 25mm targets to the range then? :P

**The Pastor** · 30th August 2009, 21:57

on more interesting things, here is what the 308mxlr can do (my rifle) on the biggest wild life in africa (that you're allowed to shoot)

http://www.marlinowners.com/forums/i...c,33818.0.html

**Hinny** · 30th August 2009, 22:22

Originally Posted by renegade master

on more interesting things, here is what the 308mxlr can do (my rifle) on the biggest wild life in africa (that you're allowed to shoot)

http://www.marlinowners.com/forums/i...c,33818.0.html

The 'Great White Hunter' shot a Zebra.
FFS
Wouldn't that be like the great white hunters that shoot lambs?
Plonker.

**jono035** · 31st August 2009, 07:09

Originally Posted by geoffm

I have the tools and welders, if anyone can get their ands on some 10mm + plate and wants to help.
I may have some 8mm plate in the workshop, but thicker is better. May even have some 25mm

That'd be damn awesome mate.

RM: I've already volunteered you as carry-bitch, sorry

Any ideas on what would make good target sizes guys? Smaller is probably better for the centerfires because a 600mm diameter round target at 12mm thick is 30kg of steel...

What about 600mm, 300mm, 150mm diameter circles in 12mm thickness for the 100m end? Would that stand up to a .308 or the Mosin?
Maybe a few small ones for .22s at the middle distance, 300mm, 100mm perhaps? These could probably be something like that plate RM brought along, 2mm or something?

What would be good ones to have for the 600m range chris? Also a couple of targets in 8mm for things like chris' lever action could be fun too?

Round would look best but square would probably be easiest and involve the least offcut metal, any thoughts?

Painting could be nice too.

**Indiana_Jones** · 31st August 2009, 08:05

I'd say go for square for ease and yea, gotta paint them a bright colour so my shit eyes can see it lol

-Indy

**jono035** · 31st August 2009, 08:32

Originally Posted by Indiana_Jones

I'd say go for square for ease and yea, gotta paint them a bright colour so my shit eyes can see it lol

-Indy

Don't worry, we'll make one that is 1200x1200 and paint it flouro orange just for you and the Mosin

**ManDownUnder** · 31st August 2009, 08:36

Originally Posted by jono035

Don't worry, we'll make one that is 1200x1200 and paint it flouro orange just for you and the Mosin

Cool so that's my 25m target sorted... what about something for 50?

**jono035** · 31st August 2009, 08:39

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

Cool so that's my 25m target sorted... what about something for 50?

See if Chris minds us painting his cliff orange?

**Mr Merde** · 31st August 2009, 08:46

Originally Posted by jono035

Chris: What does your projectile casting setup consist of? I was just looking at some of the Lee products and their bullet molds are pretty damn cheap...

With the lubrisizer thing you had, were those lube quantities specific to BP or would you do the same for smokeless? I noticed Lee has a spray on lube for cast bullets that apparently dries like varnish, seems like an interesting option (I'm not sure how critical the sizing step is though).

To casat projectiles

A casting pot of some sort. Lead needs to get to about 800 degrees Fareneight.

A dipper to get the lead out of the pot.

A mould ( Lee are OK but are made of aluminium so life isnt too great if you cast a lot.

Eye protection, heavy leather gloves (hot lead hurts),

Lubricisor works for both lack powder and modern. I also have sizing dies set in my luricisor

When you cast a bullet it will throw at a certain diameter.

eg my 44 mould throws a bullet with a diameter of .43

a 44 mag is .429

Soft lead will obdurate to fit this but if you cast harder bullets you will have pressure problems.

size them.

My 45-70 mould is supposed to throw a .458 dia bullet. I put it through the sizer for .458 and there is always a tiny little lead shaved off.

I jknow it is a .458 then

**jono035** · 31st August 2009, 08:53

Thanks for that Chris. I noticed Lee make a bullet sizer die and ram that will go in a standard press (doesn't lube though) and sell some spray on stuff that dries hard which sounds like a handy convenience...

What do you use for the lead? Do you aim for a specific alloy or go with whatever results?

**Mr Merde** · 31st August 2009, 08:59

Originally Posted by renegade master

on more interesting things, here is what the 308mxlr can do (my rifle) on the biggest wild life in africa (that you're allowed to shoot)

http://www.marlinowners.com/forums/i...c,33818.0.html

In Zimbabwe you are allowed to shoot elephant, if you get the appropriate licence.

They have a major problem with too many elephant in their country. You cant just relocate a 3 tonne animal

**Mr Merde** · 31st August 2009, 09:38

Originally Posted by jono035

Don't worry, we'll make one that is 1200x1200 and paint it flouro orange just for you and the Mosin

Have to be a big target. Dont forget he was missing the cliff most of the time and hitting the ground if he had a lucky shot

**Mr Merde** · 31st August 2009, 09:41

Originally Posted by jono035

Thanks for that Chris. I noticed Lee make a bullet sizer die and ram that will go in a standard press (doesn't lube though) and sell some spray on stuff that dries hard which sounds like a handy convenience...

What do you use for the lead? Do you aim for a specific alloy or go with whatever results?

For my BP rounds I get lead from the scrap merchants. About $2 a kilo

I mix it with pure tin at about 1:20 tin \lead to give it a bit of hardness.

Wheelweights and linotype work really well also. So does the inclusion of a little solder. If you want harder bullets.

If you are goung to push them over about 1700fps you would be best putting a gas check on the basde of the bullet.