The firearm thread

[Indiana_Jones]

Good point mate, I'll have to remember to save a few bottles up also.

-Indy

[jono035]

Good point mate, I'll have to remember to save a few bottles up also.

-Indy

Yeah, it just occurred to me that you can still throw the mangled remains into the recycling, too

[JDK]

Howdy
Has anyone been in to reloaders in the last wee while just on the look out for a hammered Baikal shotgun IZH 43K for my better 1/2 (some say happy birthday with flowers others buy guns HAHAHA )
any hows seem to recall in one of there flyers they has them for sale a while back
thanks
JDK

[Mr Merde]

Asked a mate in the CAS shooting game what steel was used in the sport for the targets.

Bi Alloy

10 mm

Does this mean anything to you? Not to me

Chris

[The Pastor]

Howdy
Has anyone been in to reloaders in the last wee while just on the look out for a hammered Baikal shotgun IZH 43K for my better 1/2 (some say happy birthday with flowers others buy guns HAHAHA )
any hows seem to recall in one of there flyers they has them for sale a while back
thanks
JDK

I have a baikal side by side, or at least i think i have one - guy i bought it off didnt know what it was, but its not the one your after!

[ManDownUnder]

Good point mate, I'll have to remember to save a few bottles up also.

-Indy

What kind of bottles? I'll store some up too (it's always fun making stuff go BOOF!)

[jono035]

Asked a mate in the CAS shooting game what steel was used in the sport for the targets.

Bi Alloy

10 mm

Does this mean anything to you? Not to me

Chris

Well it looks like High Speed Steel can also be called Bi-Metal Steel... Perhaps that?

Most of the places where you can buy these targets ready made make a bit deal about what hardness their steels are, normally AR500 which is a hardened, wear resistant steel. The 500 is the nominal Brinell hardness. Mild steel is 120 on the Brinell scale apparently with stainless at 200 and hardened tool steel at 1500-2k

[ManDownUnder]

Well it looks like High Speed Steel

I'd be f'n amased if it was High Speed Steel... and not sure I'd want to pay for it. Might as well use Emeralds for bullseyes

[JDK]

think the stuff ya thinking of is bisalloy 500 hard as hell but carefully if heated while cut can lose some hardness near the cut ..

seem to recall rifle targets are thicker (non cas shooting ) 12-14 MM

http://www.6mmbr.com/reactivetargets.html

http://www.arntzentargets.com/

http://www.gunsteel.com/

http://safedirection.com/reactiveste...fletarget.html

other thing is how the plates hang ya want them to splatter the round on to the ground top edge of plate cut back so ya just have a flush edge on top not something that looks like a roof the round could bounce off


i have some 10 mm mild plate that if flat is ok but will get small dints after a lot of shooting with lead CAS rounds (under 1000 fps pistol and under 1400 fps rifle) even shot them with 45/70 200+ meters not realy a prob 7mm08 will punch a hole in them tho
catch ya
JDK

[jono035]

i have some 10 mm mild plate that if flat is ok but will get small dints after a lot of shooting with lead CAS rounds

Ahh, Bisalloy 500, same kinda thing as AR500 no doubt, thanks for the info! I've seen a few places mention that you have to be careful how hot you let it get and that a laser cutter or water jet is a better cutting method if you can get it, although I don't think I'm that concerned..

Jacketed rifle rounds are the ones to be wary of from the sounds. Another reason to start doing some casting, I guess.

[Mr Merde]

There is an engineering company, in Thames, turning out targets for CAS.

Something like $180 each.

I know that Waiuku pistol club has bought quite a fewe and Dome Valley club has bought 30 odd targets.

If anyone is interested I can get the contact details.

Chris

[The Pastor]

$180 buys 4.5 goats.......

[Mr Merde]

$180 buys 4.5 goats.......

Looking for a hareem then?

[JDK]

Howdy
yea i think AR500 is a USA thing bisalloy i think is a ozzie rateing /product name
i'd have to look it up a while back i looked in to it to help out a mate getting some steel in from over seas
http://www.bisalloy.com.au/files/specs/Bisplate500.pdf
http://www.steelife.com/AR%20500.htm

think there is a AP rateing too for bullet proof plateing

water jet cutting is best as it's a cold cut but costs a bit more ..

think on the hunting and fishing forum there is a thing on long range shooting and plates
http://www.fishnhunt.co.nz/forum/YaB...1231012625/all
http://www.fishnhunt.co.nz/forum/YaB...m=1203733099/0
seems to be 16mm thick thats a lump of steel but it will last ya a long time
catch ya
JDK

[jono035]

Thanks for the info JDK.

Just went in to Reloader's Supplies but they had sold out of the Lee 50th Anniversary sets. Have one on order though so hopefully will get my hands on it in a few weeks. Also checked out the cost of the materials and with primers at 10c each, jacketed bulk projectiles at 15c and powder at around 3c per round thats $0.28 with my own brass.

Have seen better deals on powder/primers and some lead projectiles at 8.5c each on trademe/gunriflereload.co.nz

Asked the guy at reloaders supplies about lead casting setups but his opinion was that it wasn't worthwhile due to the high cost of scrap lead now ($10/kg?). Might have to put that idea on hold until I'm certain I can find a cheap supply of lead.