The firearm thread

[jono035]

I love my .22 Martini

-Indy

It's a nice rifle to be sure... Bloody heavy to fire free-hand though...

[Mr Merde]

It's a nice rifle to be sure... Bloody heavy to fire free-hand though...

Designed that way.

After the first shot you take it by the barrel and use it as a club to bludgeon your opposition into submission

Its a Single Shot Military Insult Weapon

[jono035]

Designed that way.

After the first shot you take it by the barrel and use it as a club to bludgeon your opposition into submission

Its a Single Shot Military Insult Weapon

Ah, I see now. It definitely would make a good club!

[Wolf]

Ah, I see now. It definitely would make a good club!

if it's anything like the BSA martini-action .22 I used to have, all I can say is: I'd prefer a lighter club that's easier to swing.

[jono035]

if it's anything like the BSA martini-action .22 I used to have, all I can say is: I'd prefer a lighter club that's easier to swing.

Lol, sounds like the discussions on hunting forums about projectile velocity vs projectile weight

[wbks]

Bolt action is safer because after firing the bolt is closed on a fired cartridge. If you don't fire then it is easy to hold the bolt at half open or unload back to the magazine.

Semi auto is inherently unsafe because after firing there is a live round loaded. It is also inherently harder to unload requiring removal of magazine and working the bolt (against the return spring) and collecting the ejected round before sticking it back in the magazine.

I don't consider a safety to be an acceptable alternative, if it malfunctions, gets knocked off or doesn't get engaged properly, you're going to end up shooting yourself or someone else.

You shouldn't be shooting at anything that you need a semi-auto to kill anyway!

It's not so much that I need a semi auto to kill something, it's that for $500 I'm getting a brand new rifle that from what I hear is as good to carry around the bush as most rifles and takes cheap ammo that is powerful enough. Can't be less accurate than 60-100 year old 303's in the same price range, either. So developing a lop sided skill base ("spray and pray") , and not being able to handle the rifle safely is what you guys think makes it a bad choice? No one here seems to like them

[The Pastor]

the sks's arnt brand new afaik?

[Drunken Monkey]

Yep, brand spankers. There's a few for sale on TM.

[The Pastor]

I saw a crate of them at serrious, they looked pretty banged up

[scumdog]

It's not so much that I need a semi auto to kill something, it's that for $500 I'm getting a brand new rifle that from what I hear is as good to carry around the bush as most rifles and takes cheap ammo that is powerful enough. Can't be less accurate than 60-100 year old 303's in the same price range, either. So developing a lop sided skill base ("spray and pray") , and not being able to handle the rifle safely is what you guys think makes it a bad choice? No one here seems to like them

303 is more accurate and fires a heavier bullet, the main advantage the SKS has (possibly the only one) is speed of fire.

[wbks]

303 is more accurate and fires a heavier bullet, the main advantage the SKS has (possibly the only one) is speed of fire.

Even the 303's available within $500? They're either old WW1/2 remains with "bore could be better" etc or parker hale's for over that

[jono035]

Even the 303's available within $500? They're either old WW1/2 remains with "bore could be better" etc or parker hale's for over that

There are plenty of ones with good bores for $100-200. They won't be sub moa lasers or anything but they'll shoot plenty well enough to hunt with. A hell of a lot of people do.

Worst comes to the worst, buy a Mosin...

[The Pastor]

There are plenty of ones with good bores for $100-200. They won't be sub moa lasers or anything but they'll shoot plenty well enough to hunt with. A hell of a lot of people do.

Worst comes to the worst, buy a Mosin...

wash your mouth out! no need to swear in here!

[Indiana_Jones]

There are plenty of ones with good bores for $100-200. They won't be sub moa lasers or anything but they'll shoot plenty well enough to hunt with. A hell of a lot of people do.

Worst comes to the worst, buy a Mosin...

lol nice

-Indy

[Swoop]

a brand new rifle that from what I hear is as good to carry around the bush as most rifles and takes cheap ammo that is powerful enough. ... and not being able to handle the rifle safely is what you guys think makes it a bad choice? No one here seems to like them

Not quite. They are a great little rifle with a cartridge that is ideal for NZ bush hunting conditions and range (<150m). You can treat them a bit rough and not be concerned about damaging a nicer rifle.
I have one and use it on goats quite happily.

It is not the best to learn on though... the trigger pull is like dragging a brick over a concrete surface...