The firearm thread

**Drunken Monkey** · 6th December 2009, 09:01

Ditto that. Great fun, great company and great food!

**Mr Merde** · 6th December 2009, 13:32

Once again a great afternoon.

It was fun having you all here and Sharron really enjoyed your company.

So much so that she had a lkittle more rum than was usual for her and had to retire to bed earlier than she usually would have.

Wolf she really enjoyed the conversations with yourself you too Drunken Monkey.

Before we leave this place we will have a massive shooting day. Might as well leave something for the neighbours to talk about.

Looks like from the interest we have had and the two offers so far that it will be about mid Jan that we will be moving.

Clay pigeon was fun. Sorry I kept hitting the little buggers before most of you had even maneged to spot where theyt were flying. I have discoverd that I really enjoy that sport. Not far from the new house there is a Shotgun club and talking to Sharron today we decided that it may be worth joining to further this interest. There is just something about the puff of disintergrating discs that gi ves me a real buzz.

We need something far sgtronger than an aliminium frying pan.

Chris

**jono035** · 6th December 2009, 16:15

Originally Posted by Mr Merde

We need something far sgtronger than an aliminium frying pan.

I dunno, I now have a pretty awesome looking aluminium colander! Will grab some photos and post them later... It held up reasonably until some bastard started putting .44s through it from a levergun...

It was great seeing the familiar faces again and meeting Wolf. Thanks for a great day of shooting and a very enjoyable evening. Thanks again Chris and please thank Sharron for her hospitality.

Chris: Pulled the casting pot to bits and checked out the element and everything then gave the pot a good wirebrushing. Fired it up, melted some small pieces of lead that I had lying around, worked brilliantly. I'm going to have to go scouting tomorrow and find a camp oven or something to melt up that massive ingot so I can try out the molds. Very excited...

**wbks** · 6th December 2009, 17:26

Fwaaar... Anyone seen the rifle that uses magnets to control the barrel movement?

**jono035** · 6th December 2009, 19:03

Chris: I was just going to copy a commercial shotmaker but someone else has already done it and described how...

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...t=18389&page=2

So, by my figuring, a few pieces of stainless plate welded up to make a trough, a 2kW stove element screwed to the underside to heat it, some stainless nuts and bolts to make the dripper nozzles out of and some steel box section for a frame and it'd be done. Could control the temperature with a scavenged thermostat from a smelting pot or with electronics. Could make the thing with as many/few nozzles as required, but I'm guessing that limiting the surface area of the lead pool would be a good idea... I've spent most of the afternoon thinking about how to control the pool height so you can add heaps of lead and leave it, but I can't think of anything elegant...

The trick is, I need a tig welder and the related metalworking tools. It always comes down to the god damned welder. Could probably cut the pieces to size and get someone else to weld them up though, probably be able to find someone to do it for a box of beer (anyone with a tig please speak now)...

**Mr Merde** · 6th December 2009, 19:40

Originally Posted by jono035

Chris: I was just going to copy a commercial shotmaker but someone else has already done it and described how...

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...t=18389&page=2

So, by my figuring, a few pieces of stainless plate welded up to make a trough, a 2kW stove element screwed to the underside to heat it, some stainless nuts and bolts to make the dripper nozzles out of and some steel box section for a frame and it'd be done. Could control the temperature with a scavenged thermostat from a smelting pot or with electronics. Could make the thing with as many/few nozzles as required, but I'm guessing that limiting the surface area of the lead pool would be a good idea... I've spent most of the afternoon thinking about how to control the pool height so you can add heaps of lead and leave it, but I can't think of anything elegant...

The trick is, I need a tig welder and the related metalworking tools. It always comes down to the god damned welder. Could probably cut the pieces to size and get someone else to weld them up though, probably be able to find someone to do it for a box of beer (anyone with a tig please speak now)...

Looks really good.

Can we hire a tig welder? Can you use one?

I cant

Chris

**jono035** · 6th December 2009, 20:21

Originally Posted by Mr Merde

Looks really good.

Can we hire a tig welder? Can you use one?

I cant

Chris

I've used an arc/mig welder before and with a few pieces of scrap I'm pretty sure I could figure something out. Looks like you can braze it easily enough which, with high-temp filler, could work providing it's used with decent temperature control...

Getting the pieces cut to size is probably the bigger job, I'm sure I can find someone within the KB community happy to do it for a couple of crates...

Edit: Can probably make one out of mild steel actually and just use stainless for the nozzle bolts... With a bit of a spray down with WD40 once it has cooled then it'll be fine... Can make one out of stainless later... Need some plate stock, can weld it up with dad's arc welder while I'm up north for Christmas...

**geoffm** · 6th December 2009, 21:03

Originally Posted by jono035

The trick is, I need a tig welder and the related metalworking tools. It always comes down to the god damned welder. Could probably cut the pieces to size and get someone else to weld them up though, probably be able to find someone to do it for a box of beer (anyone with a tig please speak now)...

I have a tig welder.... If you cut and fit everything, welding it up should be no problem.
Geoff

**Indiana_Jones** · 7th December 2009, 07:20

Great weekend guys.

Great to catch up with everyone again.

Great to meet Wolf at long last! Thanks a lot for the 30-30

Thanks to Chris & Sharon for hosting/fueling us with booze lol

Thanks to Scott for the lift

& thanks to the Turkeys for standing still while I shot them lol

-Indy

**Mr Merde** · 7th December 2009, 09:39

Originally Posted by jono035

..Can probably make one out of mild steel actually and just use stainless for the nozzle bolts... ...

Thats what the thing on castbullets looks like

**Wolf** · 7th December 2009, 11:19

Still buzzing after the weekend's shooting.

Was one of the best weekends I've ever had - shooting the shit outta stuff one day, paintball the next.

Was utterly fucked last night, though, slept the sleep of the truly exhausted.

Looking forward to a big "Last Hurrah" out at the farm, hope to meet even more of the KB shooters.

**Mr Merde** · 7th December 2009, 11:22

Jono

Check this out

http://www.littletonshotmaker.com/

Also this pic

**The Pastor** · 7th December 2009, 12:15

I also found this

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4108927.pdf

**jono035** · 7th December 2009, 13:54

Bismuth is interesting, will have to check it out. Don't know anything about it as a material to work with really...

That patent is a good find too, RM. Looks like the nozzles would be a bastard to clear and aren't exactly easy to change... The bolts-through-the-side idea would seem to be better if you want to make different size shot...