The firearm thread

[Expert]

Easy, tiger.

I'd be interested to see a reference for that accident? Even the 'hyper-velocity' .22 ammo is around 600m/s, which would be a 5 second flight time. That's a drop of 120m from the barrel line. Also, most of the ballistics calculators put the energy of a standard .22lr round (with me being generous on bullet weight, velocity and BC) at about 20 Joules at 1km out, with the velocity being about 100m/s, which, conveniently is also terminal velocity for a .22lr bullet.

So, that would pretty much assume that the person was hit by the bullet falling directly down at terminal velocity, probably tumbling.

I dunno, man...

You're a right clever bugger, aren't you?

[The Pastor]

Do you really have a 1912 bike? that's pretty awesome. GOt a pic of it?

[The Pastor]

You're a right clever bugger, aren't you?

Please don't encourage him, its hard enough understanding what hes talking about as it is :S

[Expert]

I'm glad to see you have gone from self proclaimed expert, to expert. Which begs the question, how do you get qualified as an expert? A self proclaimed one I understand - i.e., a person who has a high opinion of themselves.

I would suggest to you, that the true experts are called experts only by others, and not by themselves.

Then I start to wonder what you're an "expert" in? Knitting? Baking? or perhaps, being a bitch. I would call you an expert in being a bitch. From now on i'll call you bitch expert.

FYI, here is a picture of wolf, at the last kb shoot we did.




p.s Don't take life to seriously!

Unlike most other people on here i don't take myself too seriously and can laugh at myself.

If you break down expert you get two words; ex and spurt.

ex means has-been, and spurt is a drip working under pressure.

[Expert]

Do you really have a 1912 bike? that's pretty awesome. GOt a pic of it?

I took a picture of it when i got it out of the showroom with my trusty old pin-hole camera, but the picture was upside down so i threw it away.

[Expert]

I'm glad to see you have gone from self proclaimed expert, to expert. Which begs the question, how do you get qualified as an expert? A self proclaimed one I understand - i.e., a person who has a high opinion of themselves.

I would suggest to you, that the true experts are called experts only by others, and not by themselves.

Then I start to wonder what you're an "expert" in? Knitting? Baking? or perhaps, being a bitch. I would call you an expert in being a bitch. From now on i'll call you bitch expert.

FYI, here is a picture of wolf, at the last kb shoot we did.




p.s Don't take life to seriously!

Oh yeah, and what qualifies you to be a renegade master??
That is actually a qualification you've earned and isn't self proclaimed?
You lot really are sad.
Perhaps you'd like to be called renegade master of homosexuallity?

[Wolf]

FYI, here is a picture of wolf, at the last kb shoot we did.

Glad you used the one where I was smiling...

[Wolf]

Unlike most other people on here i don't take myself too seriously and can laugh at myself.

compare with:

Pull yer head in wolf, ... Dickhead.

Hmmmm, sounds like you take yourself more seriously than you take firearms safety.

I've cleaned the dust off your dummy, you can have it back after you've calmed down.

[jono035]

Wolf - Pity, I'd be interested to know more about it.

Sounds like one of those things that happened but has probably grown a bit through re-tellings and exaggerations.

I'm heading up north for christmas and taking most of my firearms up so who knows, maybe I'll take a few potshots at a feral coat and see what happens.

Expert: Thanks! It's nice to be appreciated, occasionally.

RM: That photo's a bit old, he's clean shaven now, isn't he?

[Swoop]

apparently the little .22 round is thinking mans' the weapon of choice for suicide, but supposedly it has the power to penetrate the skull from underneath, but not the power to exit. instead, it rattles around in your head and scrambles your brain!

Unfortunately it does not. The tounge is quite a dense item and slows the round down quite a bit.
Having cleaned the blood off of firearm used for a suicide attempt, I can confidently state this.

[sAsLEX]

Unfortunately it does not. The tounge is quite a dense item and slows the round down quite a bit.
Having cleaned the blood off of firearm used for a suicide attempt, I can confidently state this.

If one commits suicide by swallowing the sharp end of a rifle, in what direction are they pointing it if they go through the tongue?

[sAsLEX]

I was not told who the people were nor exactly when it took place. It was one of the examples given by our firearms safety officer when I did the course a very large number of years ago.

It was a ricochet off water, he said.

Mr "Expert" is most welcome to test his theory about a "thick coat" stopping a .22 at 100m provided that no one is wearing it at the time.

And he's nowhere near me at the time.

I know someone who had his sergeant take 4 shots from a 9mm sub machine gun at ~15m range which were stopped by a great coat.

They all said "fuck off you lying prick"

So he went inside got his 9mm, got a woolen pussers blanket, hosed it down and hung it on the line and emptied a magazine in to it.

The rounds did not go through.

[sAsLEX]

They aren't allowed on doc land for a good reason

As people would shoot Keruru with them, oh and possums and ferrets etc...... but we just use broadly applied 1080 for them.....

[Wolf]

I know someone who had his sergeant take 4 shots from a 9mm sub machine gun at ~15m range which were stopped by a great coat.

They all said "fuck off you lying prick"

So he went inside got his 9mm, got a woolen pussers blanket, hosed it down and hung it on the line and emptied a magazine in to it.

The rounds did not go through.

And yet other times, rounds will rip straight through heavy cloth. There are so many factors involved that I would not stake my life on it. Not even a bullet proof jacket is guaranteed to save your life.

Shooting at one wet unsupported blanket is hardly "scientific method" - different conditions may make for completely different results. E.g. dry fabric resting against an object - tailor's dummy or a person's torso - may well be well-and-truly penetrated.

While I would not rely on a .22 to bag a deer, I would not dismiss its ability to do horrific and possibly fatal damage to myself or those around me.

Also wouldn't rely on a greatcoat or a wet blanket to save me from a 9mm SMG, either.

[Wolf]

As people would shoot Keruru with them, oh and possums and ferrets etc...... but we just use broadly applied 1080 for them.....

Don't try using logic against DOC, my friend, that way lies frustration and eventual madness...