The firearm thread

[munster]

Anyone need spotlight batteries?

I've got a few spare 12 volt 7 amp hour batteries, ex UPS, get changed every 2 years under contract, no problems. Free, pick up in Pukekohe or can deliver locally within reason

Don't be shy, I've got about 40 of them spare. If you don't, then I'm going to be tempted to attempt to make one of these. And that will not do my marriage any good. And then I'll get divorced. And it'll be all yous fellas fault for not picking up free batteries.

[BornAgainBiker]

Don't be shy, I've got about 40 of them spare. If you don't, then I'm going to be tempted to attempt to make one of these. And that will not do my marriage any good. And then I'll get divorced. And it'll be all yous fellas fault for not picking up free batteries.

FlukeShot recons you should build that dream bike

[munster]

FlukeShot recons you should build that dream bike

Dunno about dream bike, but certainly an interesting 'project' bike.

[The Pastor]

Dunno about dream bike, but certainly an interesting 'project' bike.

do it ya pussy

[munster]

do it ya pussy

Got a spare bike sans motor lying around. That'll do for a start.

[Mr Merde]

I would be interested in a couple of those batteries.

I live in Tuakau

PM me contact details

Merde.

[Smokin]

Not sure if any of you guys own a 17HMR but don't buy a .22 or .22 magnum before you check one out.
Have a look at this guys CZ in action, mind you he's a good shot.

[Drunken Monkey]

I remember it was all the rage a few years ago. I'm less skeptical about the ballistics of the round, but there are many reported problems with the .17HMR auto loaders - to the point I believe 2 out of the 3 manufacturers who sold a .17HMR auto loader have dropped the product. I'll see if I can find the forum again.
Chuck Hawks doesn't seem to have talked about in depth.

Anyone got personal experience with it?

Personally I found the .22 Magnum more versatile, but feed reliability problems (again with auto loaders, probably not a problem in other formats), cost and a wish to be consuming a smaller range of calibre types across more firearms led me to drop it.

Now I run 2 x .22LR instead of 1 x .22LR and 1 x .22 Magnum. 2 shotties, again 1 auto loader and one pump, 12 gauge. .243 is "in a replacement program" (*cough* Merde! *cough*) when this is complete, will have again, 1 x auto loader and 1 x bolt, both in 7.62x51/.308.

[Smokin]

I own 2 of them both, bolt action Savages, Fantastic round but not good in the wind.
The self loaders had a problem with the pointed tips catching as they were feeding into the chamber and flicking sideways, then discharging when the bolt closed on the sideways round and that caused the remaining rounds in the mag to discharge also. I witnessed this firsthand shooting beside my mate with his remington 597.
Not a pretty result, He was ok but the bolt was messed up and the magazine was nothing but a mangled piece of tin. Most of the problems seemed to come from the 597 which Remington recalled and rebarreled to .22mag. It scared most of the other manufacturers off from what I was told.

[GPS MAN]

Got a Savage 17 HMR in the states..it rocks...Have a 17 Mach II...CRAP...over here....Like my Ruger 10/22 much better....

[m99dws]

H&R 12G Shotgun
1943 Lee Enfield .303
Anschutz .22 (Sold)
Zombie Survival Guide
Sharp pointy knife

:-)

[m99dws]

PS - wish we had a Gun City store in Welly, that would surely rock!

[Winston001]

What's the go with the NZ Army (or is it called Defence Force now?) not having decent weapons?

http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/sold...target-4371991

Anyone understand whats going on? I thought the Steyr was a good bullpup assault rifle, now its below par. Seems like they moved from the Minimi as the SAW to a 7.62 but no guns have been purchased.

What have they bought for sniper rifles?

[Swoop]

$1- Gun promo under fire...
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10748687

I received the email yesterday and thought it was a good promotion. Nice to see the usual morons bleating about it.




A Father's Day promotion at an Auckland gun shop offering a "mystery firearm" for $1 to the first person to spot it on the racks has been labelled sick, sad and irresponsible.

But the man behind the bargain stands by his offer and says the dad who gets the gun will be "God blessed".

As part of its annual Father's Day sale Gun City in Mt Roskill is offering a special deal to one lucky punter on Saturday. If they spot the gun with the $1 price tag - it's theirs to buy, providing they have a current Firearms Licence.

But anti-gun lobbyists say the promotion may send the wrong message to the public.

Professor Kevin Clements, director of the National Centre for Peace and Conflict Studies at Otago University, said there were already "more than enough guns" in New Zealand.

"I think that it is a very sick and sad promotion for Father's Day," he said.

"New Zealand already has 230,000 licensed firearms owners and over a million weapons. The assumption that a father needs or wants a new gun for Father's Day sends all the wrong messages to children and partners.

He said advertising a gun for $1 would attract a wide variety of bargain hunters - and most would already own guns.

"This $1 gun will be surplus to their requirements. It is not a responsible promotion. It is an inducement for gun lovers and bargain hunters to come into a gun shop.

"It is dangerous because the advert suggests that purchasing a gun is not very different from a fairground lucky dip when, because of its potential lethality, it should be a very serious, deliberate decision subject to specific rules and regulations."

Green MP Keith Locke said the promotion was "disturbing".

"I think it's completely the wrong attitude towards guns and the sale of guns," he said.

"Surely the whole context of the sale of guns should be that guns are sold only for particular legitimate purposes. Hunters, for example, buy a certain type of gun for hunting."

But Gun City owner David Tipple stood by the sale and said it was a "genuine gift" from one gun lover to another.

"What does it matter if a guy pays a dollar or $10,000 for the gun? What difference does it make?" he said.

"Picture this - some kid who can't afford to buy his father a gun. But say he's 18 or 20 and has his Firearms Licence, he can give that gift to his father.

"This is a genuine gift from us, and God bless the guy who gets it."

Mr Tipple said the only problem with the promotion was a backlash from those who did not understand and feared guns.

"These people are dealing with that kind of ignorance and I feel really sorry for them. What else are they afraid of?

"The reality is we live in a country where firearms cause less harm than fly spray and they have nothing to fear.

"It's tragic that the vocal minority are normally speaking from ignorance. Just because the firearm is sold cheap doesn't mean it poses a threat to society.

"The person who owns it has been vetted and they're entitled to own a firearm, so what difference does it make if their economic circumstances wouldn't normally allow them to - but as a result of us subsidising it - they can."

Mr Tipple was reluctant to reveal any details about the gun, but said it was "a particularly good deal" and worth between $500 and $1500.

"It's a lot of money, it's a big reduction. But that's what we're prepared to do as a gift for Father's Day."

He said the person who found the gun must be the buyer - eliminating the possibly of unlicensed people flooding to the store to try to spot the bargain.

"The buyer has to find it, has to identify it ... once he's identified it and once he's proven that he has a firearms licence, he can buy it."

Mr Locke said the promotion was the wrong approach to gun sales.

"We're not trying to cultivate glorification of guns in our society in the younger generation ... it's the sort of thing you'd expect more in America than in New Zealand. It's not the sort of thing we want to see here."

Mr Clements said encouraging people to buy more guns was wrong.

"I think that the existence of 1.1 million guns is already far too many for a country of 4.4 million people."

He said promoting "gun cultures" was also dangerous.

"Gun cultures survive by promoting what is known as 'hyper masculinity'. Such hyper masculinity is somewhat out of sync with a masculinity that favours good parenting, family attachments, equality, sensitivity to women and so on.

"The messages that Gun City are sending are likely to heighten gender divisions and create something of a pall over what should be a day when fathers immerse themselves in family, friends and the joys of home."

A police spokesman said he did not believe the promotion breached the Arms Act.

"But obviously the seller must comply with the act in terms of the sale and the purchaser must hold the appropriate firearms licence."

[jono035]

Was just about to post that.

Pretty irritating. I don't see what difference it makes, really. I don't think their analysis of 'the gun will be surplus to requirements' is quite correct. Legitimate reason for owning a firearm does not include a '1 firearm per use' clause, nor would the addition of one enhance firearm security or public safety.

I can't think of a single firearm that Gun City would have that I wouldn't find a use for.

Free advertising for Gun City, possibly at the detriment to the NZ FAL holder community.