The firearm thread

[Monsterbishi]

Anyone know of anyone whose importing Tech Sights from the U.S.A.....or a N.Z agent?
Im looking at getting a TS200 Peep sight, but they wont ship to N.Z...
They sound like the bizzo .For the SKS.

Failing that NZ Post do a forwarding service where they'll set you up with a US address to send stuff to and they forward it from there.

[jasonu]

Anyone know of anyone whose importing Tech Sights from the U.S.A.....or a N.Z agent?
Im looking at getting a TS200 Peep sight, but they wont ship to N.Z...
They sound like the bizzo .For the SKS.

If you get it sent to me in Oregon I will forward it on to you via USPS (for a small fee for beer). PM if you are interested

[jono035]

A quick googling around seems to indicate that scopes and sights are considered firearm parts by the US Customs Service. There are plenty of people complaining about needing export permits, at least.

A few places will export to NZ without needing to get an export permit if the parts are worth less than US$200, but that rule appears to only apply to licensed exporters.

Just be careful, it seems like a very easy way to end up in trouble.

[jasonu]

A quick googling around seems to indicate that scopes and sights are considered firearm parts by the US Customs Service. There are plenty of people complaining about needing export permits, at least.

A few places will export to NZ without needing to get an export permit if the parts are worth less than US$200, but that rule appears to only apply to licensed exporters.

Just be careful, it seems like a very easy way to end up in trouble.

That is not what I found.
https://www.usps.com/send/can-you-mail-it.htm
https://www.usps.com/send/can-you-mail-it.htm

I also called USPS and was told there is no special restriction on gun accessories.
Within the states you can actually mail unloaded shotguns and rifles. Who'd have thunk...

[jono035]

That is not what I found.
https://www.usps.com/send/can-you-mail-it.htm
https://www.usps.com/send/can-you-mail-it.htm

I also called USPS and was told there is no special restriction on gun accessories.
Within the states you can actually mail unloaded shotguns and rifles. Who'd have thunk...

That's really odd and runs entirely counter to what I found when I was looking into it. Perhaps that's the rules that USPS use (i.e. if you've got all your other paperwork sorted, we'll ship it). Also, could that be within the US, rather than international shipments?

http://www.borderview.com/services/f...ption-details/

That explains the value limit I was talking about before and is an allowance that I've used a few times now. I've talked to a couple of guys who have essentially built entire rifles (excepting the parts listed) from parts purchased in sub $100 lots. It says that the parts may be exported without a license (not sure if this is a sender license or a per-shipment license) but the sender has to be a DDTC Registered Exporter (whatever the hell that is).

There could also be a subtlety between a firearm part and accessory. I'm not sure where that would come down with regards to a sight but oh well.

[puddytat]

Hey, thats most excellent from you fellas.....& I appreciate your input & efforts.
But.....the good news is that I recieved a shipping confirmation from Amazon,saying that Advancemart ( the outfit selling the sight) has shipped my order & its on its way
The sight itself was $79.00 U.S so this may also explain why its "O.K" to export,& like you said it may well be an accessory.
Next it'll be what customs think of it.....
I wont believe Im out of the woods until its in my hot little hands though.

[jono035]

Hey, thats most excellent from you fellas.....& I appreciate your input & efforts.
But.....the good news is that I recieved a shipping confirmation from Amazon,saying that Advancemart ( the outfit selling the sight) has shipped my order & its on its way
The sight itself was $79.00 U.S so this may also explain why its "O.K" to export,& like you said it may well be an accessory.
Next it'll be what customs think of it.....
I wont believe Im out of the woods until its in my hot little hands though.

Hey, that's great! The trick appears to be finding a seller that is aware of the sub $100 exemption, is DDTC registered and is willing to deal with the hassle of exporting. So far I've bought maybe 4-5 orders from Brownells with good luck, although they're normally a little more expensive than other places such as Midway (who I've bought from and hand-carried back, only low volume reloading gear though which appears to be unregulated).

I just wish Brownells had a decent AR-15 trigger set for less than $100, the milspec trigger on my AR is pretty nasty.

[puddytat]

I just wish Brownells had a decent AR-15 trigger set for less than $100, the milspec trigger on my AR is pretty nasty.

Man, cant be worse than an SKS Feels like you dragging it along gravel !! Have you tried Googling a fix for it? Have just done one on the SKS & what a differance a bit of polishing & filing makes.

[jono035]

Man, cant be worse than an SKS Feels like you dragging it along gravel !! Have you tried Googling a fix for it? Have just done one on the SKS & what a differance a bit of polishing & filing makes.

Yeah, true, it's probably a lot better than the SKS trigger. Hadn't thought of trying to clean it up a bit myself, will have to have a look around.

[jasonu]

That's really odd and runs entirely counter to what I found when I was looking into it. Perhaps that's the rules that USPS use (i.e. if you've got all your other paperwork sorted, we'll ship it). Also, could that be within the US, rather than international shipments?

http://www.borderview.com/services/f...ption-details/

That explains the value limit I was talking about before and is an allowance that I've used a few times now. I've talked to a couple of guys who have essentially built entire rifles (excepting the parts listed) from parts purchased in sub $100 lots. It says that the parts may be exported without a license (not sure if this is a sender license or a per-shipment license) but the sender has to be a DDTC Registered Exporter (whatever the hell that is).

There could also be a subtlety between a firearm part and accessory. I'm not sure where that would come down with regards to a sight but oh well.

Anything EXCEPT the lower reciever (that has a serial number) is just stuff. A reciever, in the USA, is counted as a firearm as it has the serial number stamped on it.m I think the limit value you refere to is an NZ customs thing.

[jono035]

Anything EXCEPT the lower reciever (that has a serial number) is just stuff. A reciever, in the USA, is counted as a firearm as it has the serial number stamped on it.

Again, that runs counter to my experiences. I agree that anything other than the lower receiver is considered a part, rather than a firearm, but the ITAR regulation cited before indicates you need an export permit for barrels, upper receiver housings, BCG (my info is all AR specific), regardless of value, which indicates to me that it is likely more complicated than your comments would indicate.

So, ultimately, it's a personal choice and all but it sounds a bit too dodgy for my liking. The risk vastly outweighs the reward.

[jasonu]

Again, that runs counter to my experiences. I agree that anything other than the lower receiver is considered a part, rather than a firearm, but the ITAR regulation cited before indicates you need an export permit for barrels, upper receiver housings, BCG (my info is all AR specific), regardless of value, which indicates to me that it is likely more complicated than your comments would indicate.

So, ultimately, it's a personal choice and all but it sounds a bit too dodgy for my liking. The risk vastly outweighs the reward.

Yes mate you could be right. My posts refer to the USPS. The recieving countries customs regs would/should be investigated before parts, especially things like uppers and barrels ie stuff that look like gun parts, are sent. I would be super surprised if scopes and or sights caused a problem...

[Mr Merde]

Again, that runs counter to my experiences. I agree that anything other than the lower receiver is considered a part, rather than a firearm, but the ITAR regulation cited before indicates you need an export permit for barrels, upper receiver housings, BCG (my info is all AR specific), regardless of value, which indicates to me that it is likely more complicated than your comments would indicate.

So, ultimately, it's a personal choice and all but it sounds a bit too dodgy for my liking. The risk vastly outweighs the reward.

The ATF have pretty much declared that in the case of AR15 uppers that they are "non firearms" and do not need a permit to buy or to export.

I was looking into this when a company produced a .22 LR belt fed upper for the AR15. Lakeside.

Chris

[Mr Merde]

I am hoping for someones input here.

I am interested in purchasing a Marlin Camp Carbine in .45 ACP. 7 shot 1911 mags.

Has anyone here on this board had any experience of these sweet little carbines?

Thinking that if I get one I will have a suppressor fixed permanently to it.

Would make a sweet little bunny, goat, pig and bush gun.

Have found them for about $500 US and my cuz would probably be able to bring it over for me in December.

Along with 10x 7 round magazines at about $10 US each.

Chris

[jono035]

I am hoping for someones input here.

I am interested in purchasing a Marlin Camp Carbine in .45 ACP. 7 shot 1911 mags.

Has anyone here on this board had any experience of these sweet little carbines?

Thinking that if I get one I will have a suppressor fixed permanently to it.

Would make a sweet little bunny, goat, pig and bush gun.

Have found them for about $500 US and my cuz would probably be able to bring it over for me in December.

Along with 10x 7 round magazines at about $10 US each.

Chris

There was a guy at Central Shooters with one in 9mm... Even firing subs it was still pretty loud. Nice thing to shoot. He had a holo sight on it and it cycled beautifully. If you're going to suppress it, go full on and do a 3" shrouded half-assed de-lisle lookalike! Muzzle pressure would be low enough to use plastic, even.

Still, it's going to be like lobbing stones. At 100m it'll be dropping at a 45 degree angle :P