The firearm thread

[husaberg]

Your pics raise a number of questions, some of which I have referred on.

That original 161 pic was taken very eary in the piece, so early that I'm not sure they actually realise where they are. They seem to think they are still in Waiouru. Later similar photos definitely show the rifles with mags in place.

I'm now told the artillery people did actually have some heavy barrel SLRs. That is not an infantry weapon. Sure the gunners are not infantry but those weapons would have been oddball in Vietnaml, I'd have thought they had M60s the same as everybody else.

The book cover: Those guys are SAS, most in that pic have M16s but there appears to be one SLR. The SAS SLRs were often "hotrodded", full auto option with 30 shot mags and some may have had the flash hider removed.

That other B&W pic: there are things I like and some that seem odd. The gunner and his number two would be expected to have several hundred rounds of linked belt ammo each, everybody else a 100 round belt, yet none do I see. Infantry SLRs had carrying handles and sling swivels removed, and again some had 30 round mags.

You seem to have a gift for finding oddball pics.

You reckon that is an Owen in the video it has to be that or A F1? doesn't it?
We had owens? never knew that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owen_Gun
Yet this list us as only having the stirling in that timeframe?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...d_armed_forces
The pics T i looked through a fair few to find them but the frst on was in the first few. i noticed the heavy on the bipod.

[Kickaha]

. The SAS SLRs were often "hotrodded", full auto option with 30 shot mags

I saw an interview with an Australian SAS member he said the full autos were shit, too hard to control when firing full auto

[TheDemonLord]

I saw an interview with an Australian SAS member he said the full autos were shit, too hard to control when firing full auto

Same with all the Battle Rifles - the G3, M14, FAL etc. - full auto in a Rifle Calibre being shoulder fired from a Rifle was impractical.

[pritch]

I saw an interview with an Australian SAS member he said the full autos were shit, too hard to control when firing full auto

I didn’t fire a hotrodded one but I did fire a heavy barrel one full auto from the kneeling position and he’s not wrong.

[aNZBloke]

I have not heard those anecdotes, nor do I know what soldiers you refer to; definitely not Kiwis, they had SLRs.

http://www.americanthinker.com/artic...ietnam_ki.html

vietnamwar.fandom.com/wiki/M1_carbine under combat use, notably in The Philippines

[jasonu]

http://www.diggerhistory.info/pages-...am/nz-arty.htm
161 was the battery number i did find some other photos see previous post. the cover one they are removing the mags for the flight by the look of it.
It was meant to be taken there.
Dont know what the engineers had when they arrived. but i would like to think it was less unweildly than a SLR?

Here is a owen by the look of it?

So now you are an expert on the Vietnam war. Better add it to the list.

[Katman]

So now you are an expert on the Vietnam war. Better add it to the list.

But, but, but......

i think its a owens, do you think its a owens? im sure its a owens

i never new we had owens

[husaberg]

So now you are an expert on the Vietnam war. Better add it to the list.

I wouldn't unless you want to add it to the list of stuff you made up on KB.
Maybe for a laugh you should point out where i claimed to be an expert.
While it appears I know more about the law, farming, politics, pike river and other stuff than you and the majority of the cretins here, Lets get real that certainly doesn't require expert status.
That only requires a modicum of intelligence.
Shit, if expert status only requires you to know more than Katman, that only that you complete primary school and eat less than 20gm of lead paint a day, FFS
Maybe America would be better off if the Presidents had to obtain an above average IQ test. Not above American average mind you aim higher, for like tiny Mexican villagers with no schools av IQ.

[TheDemonLord]

But, but, but......

i think its a owens, do you think its a owens? im sure its a owens

i never new we had owens

Heh - Forgotten Weapons did a video on the Owen Submachine gun recently - I always thought it was a knock-off Sten, but turns out it's a very well put together Firearm, the dual-chamber design is actually pretty ingenious.

[TheDemonLord]

While it appears I know more about the law, farming, politics, pike river and other stuff than you and the majority of the cretins here,

You are forgetting you are talking to a guy that claims
to know more
about US laws than a US supreme court judge
More abut US security that the FBI.
More about what laws drafted than those who draft them.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...

[roogazza]

http://www.americanthinker.com/artic...ietnam_ki.html

vietnamwar.fandom.com/wiki/M1_carbine under combat use, notably in The Philippines

cheers for the links. Interesting reading.

[jasonu]

I wouldn't unless you want to add it to the list of stuff you made up on KB.
Maybe for a laugh you should point out where i claimed to be an expert.
While it appears I know more about the law, farming, politics, pike river and other stuff than you and the majority of the cretins here, Lets get real that certainly doesn't require expert status.
That only requires a modicum of intelligence.
Shit, if expert status only requires you to know more than Katman, that only that you complete primary school and eat less than 20gm of lead paint a day, FFS
Maybe America would be better off if the Presidents had to obtain an above average IQ test. Not above American average mind you aim higher, for like tiny Mexican villagers with no schools av IQ.

If you are so smart and everyone else here is a cretin then why do you spend a significant amount of your days on here acting superior? Sounds like a waste of your valuable time aye.

[husaberg]

If you are so smart and everyone else here is a cretin then why do you spend a significant amount of your days on here acting superior? Sounds like a waste of your valuable time aye.

Do you know the difference between the words Majority and Everyone?
Because i do.
I said one, yet you just inferred i said another.
Which one is what i actually said Jason?
What i find funny is you are making a whole heap of statements along with the others here. Yet when challenged you (as well as the rest) have no proof to back them, Yet you all claim them to be factual.
Anything and everything, that shows you are clearly wrong, is dismissed as not being relevant, ignored or is dismissed as being some sort of conspiracy. Its laughable.
Now we also have zero post score users and loser nobodies suddenly appearing also adding the circle jerk opinion. Plus the biggest Muppet on KB, who refuses to even state an opinion, yet everyone knows as he hates guns, but hes just here to troll.
You have a few people out of a country of 4 million (of which you are not even a resident of) who don't like a new law. Tough shit. Get over it.

[pritch]

There are a number of odd things in that picture I will enquire further.

So I had 10 responses so far and a consensus - of sorts - has emerged. The lack of mags was questioned by most respondents as was the sling, the positioning of the guns was not how 161 did things, and the wearing of those shorts was thought odd too, they were not issue in NZ . The suggestion is that it's most likely that these are Brits or Australians in Malaya.

I guess we'll never know, but at least we can all be sure there's a lot odd about that pic.

[jasonu]

Do you know the difference between the words Majority and Everyone?
Because i do.
I said one, yet you just inferred i said another.
Which one is what i actually said Jason?
What i find funny is you are making a whole heap of statements along with the others here. Yet when challenged you (as well as the rest) have no proof to back them, Yet you all claim them to be factual.
Anything and everything, that shows you are clearly wrong, is dismissed as not being relevant, ignored or is dismissed as being some sort of conspiracy. Its laughable.
Now we also have zero post score users and loser nobodies suddenly appearing also adding the circle jerk opinion. Plus the biggest Muppet on KB, who refuses to even state an opinion, yet everyone knows as he hates guns, but hes just here to troll.
You have a few people out of a country of 4 million (of which you are not even a resident of) who don't like a new law. Tough shit. Get over it.

Again, if everyone else around here is a dimwit why do you spend so much time arguing with said dimwits?