The firearm thread

[husaberg]

The ones that dont will be criminals.
Which is exactly what the gun lobby and other on here claimed ad nausea that they were not.........
So simply put, if they cant comply with the NZ firearms law.
Why exactly should they have firearms in the first place. How exactly are they any different than any other criminal.

You have the reasoning skills of a 6 year old.

Go on then, maybe you can explain, how those that don't obey the law and hand in their now illegal firearms as the law clearly directs them to, are not criminals then?
It will be interesting seeing how you explain that one.
Especially seeing as you have declared yourself to be in possession of superior reasoning skills.
Unless of course your reasoning skill are actually less than what you ascribe as being a 6 year old's ability.

How is it any different to the powers that be deciding that too many people are being injured or dying on higher cc motorcycles and overnight demanding that people hand in any motorcycles that they own over 500 cc?

Sounds like the reasoning of a 5 year old ,answer the question or slink off back to the conspiracy threads.
Here is a hint, you dont get to pick and choose to follow what laws you consider just. Unless you are a criminal.

So you'd expect everyone to happily hand in their >500 cc motorcycles in the above scenario - and if they refused, you'd view them as criminals?

Answer the question as posed or go back to your little conspiracy circle jerk. Its like you, that simple.
The fact you cant simply answer it despite haveing multiple attempts suggests you cant rationalise your answer after-all, which is exactly what i suspected in the first place.

[Katman]

Why exactly should they have firearms in the first place.

Because 'in the first place' the firearms were legal when purchased.

[husaberg]

Because 'in the first place' the firearms were legal when purchased.

Answer the question or go away..........
Only a fool or a 5 year old thinks its not criminal to pick and choose what laws they choose to obey.

[pritch]

Your being to kind.

Does that mean something like, "You're being too kind"?

[Pound]

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/chr...buyback-scheme

Well I could already see this happening.....

[pritch]

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/chr...buyback-scheme

Well I could already see this happening.....

That guy is given to hyperbole. Violent revolution in Godzone? Nah apathy rules.

[Pound]

That guy is given to hyperbole. Violent revolution in Godzone? Nah apathy rules.

When asked by host Lisa Owen what he meant by "revolution", Clark said "Literally, what I just said. What have you got to lose? What other alternatives have you got in life?"



He is not doing gun owners any favors with that extreme reasoning.....

[Oakie]

The prices for confiscated firearms is being released tomorrow (according to Te News) and you will not get back what you paid for each firearm.
Not even retail price.

You''' be lucky to get 1/2 what you paid.
My guess is 1/3 retail.

Well I'm getting $420 back for the rifle I paid $76 dollars for in 1979. Oh, and $105 for each of the three magazines I have. $735 all up. But yeah ... I'd rather keep the rifle.

[jasonu]

Well I'm getting $420 back for the rifle I paid $76 dollars for in 1979. Oh, and $105 for each of the three magazines I have. $735 all up. But yeah ... I'd rather keep the rifle.

Haha now that is funny shit.

[Oakie]

The way I read it though it's not my semi automatic .22 that's illegal in itself. It's when I plug in a 15 shot magazine that it becomes illegal. If I hand in the 3 x 15 shot mags I have and then buy a 10 shot magazine then I'm all legal. You guys agree?

Actually quite tempted to hand it all in, take the money and then buy a cheap bolt action with a 5 shot mag.

[husaberg]

The way I read it though it's not my semi automatic .22 that's illegal in itself. It's when I plug in a 15 shot magazine that it becomes illegal. If I hand in the 3 x 15 shot mags I have and then buy a 10 shot magazine then I'm all legal. You guys agree?

Actually quite tempted to hand it all in, take the money and then buy a cheap bolt action with a 5 shot mag.

From what i understand because it is "capable of having" the lag cap mag fitted it is illegal as it currently sits

SCratch thatsorry no its legal
https://www.police.govt.nz/advice/fi...bited-firearms

ist of legal and prohibited firearms
Firearm type
Action
Prohibited firearm
.22 rimfire or smaller
Bolt
No - but note that a magazine that holds more than 10 rounds is prohibited.
.22 rimfire or smaller
Lever
No - but note that a magazine that holds more than 10 rounds is prohibited.
.22 rimfire or smaller

Semi-auto
No - if it has magazine holding 10 rounds or less.
Yes - if it has a magazine holding more than 10
if it was over 22 rimfire it wuld be illegal

[austingtir]

Well I'm getting $420 back for the rifle I paid $76 dollars for in 1979. Oh, and $105 for each of the three magazines I have. $735 all up. But yeah ... I'd rather keep the rifle.

Vote NEW CONSERVATIVE and you probably will get to keep your rifle in any configuration.

https://www.facebook.com/NewConserva...type=3&theater




Anybody that thinks this inept government is going to be able to get everyone to hand their guns in before they get booted out in 2020 is dreaming.


My suggestion to everyone if they do go ahead with it is to "sell" the gun to someone else (you dont have to provide proof for category A).

Or just put it in your gun safe and if the police ask tell them to come get it. No need to make it easy for them unless your going to get arrested.

This entire thing is nothing more than a gun grab to disarm the general populace. It will have zero effect on any future shootings because they are not doing a thing to fix the actual problems.

[husaberg]

To the people who think is good idea not to hand in their rifle

The police drill where a suspected is suspected to be armed is a raid prior to dawn with 10 -20 armed officers.
The two people on here who have suggested they will not hand back their now prohibited weapon and have suggested others do the same have had their names and address given to police.
I am sure a political party will enjoy having their name associated with someone suggesting people brake the law.
It is also against site rules to encourage or solicit people to break the law

[austingtir]

To the people who think is good idea not to hand in their rifle

The police drill where a suspected is suspected to be armed is a raid prior to dawn with 10 -20 armed officers.
The two people on here who have suggested they will not hand back their now prohibited weapon and have suggested others do the same have had their names and address given to police.
I am sure a political party will enjoy having their name associated with someone suggesting people brake the law.

There you go doxxing people again.

Are the mods going to boot this guy or not?


The police cant raid every gun owners property in NZ. They cant dig up every gun owners property looking for the guns.

Your not scaring anybody other than yourself.


BTW I dont have a gun or a gun license.





















































Or maybe I handed my gun license in and buried my gun. You'll never know.

[Katman]

The two people on here who have suggested they will not hand back their now prohibited weapon and have suggested others do the same have had their names and address given to police.

No, seriously.......