View Poll Results: Which firearm types do you own?

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  • Shotgun (single, double, pump, lever, bolt)

    291 31.91%
  • Shotgun Auto (non MSSA)

    96 10.53%
  • Rifle (single, double, pump, lever, bolt)

    408 44.74%
  • Rifle Auto (non MSSA)

    177 19.41%
  • MSSA

    66 7.24%
  • Pistol

    78 8.55%
  • Black powder (rifle, pistol, shotgun)

    35 3.84%
  • Air/Gas (pistol, rifle)

    313 34.32%
  • un-armed

    305 33.44%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    A drill round does not hold powder as it is either solid metal OR has holes drilled in the casing as it is specifically non-fireable.
    That's what the army does, but that's not what Hollywood does. They put some shot in the cartridge so it looks normal but it rattles. There may be scenes where ammunition is handled on screen, so the cartridges need to look normal. They sound different though. Normally that is carefully checked one round at a time.

    Lawyers are discussing this on various forums but they are just looking at normal gun safety rules. Hollywood has its own rules and it depends on whether TPTB give them credence or not.



    Actors Equity gun safety rules:

    Safety Tips for Use of Firearms

    Use simulated or dummy weapons whenever possible.
    Treat all guns as if they are loaded and deadly.
    Unless you are actually performing or rehearsing, the property master must secure all firearms.
    The property master or armorer should carefully train you in the safe use of any firearm you must handle. Be honest if you have no knowledge about guns. Do not overstate your qualifications.
    Follow all instructions given by the qualified instructor.
    Never engage in horseplay with any firearms or other weapons. Do not let others handle the gun for any reason.
    All loading of firearms must be done by the property master, armorer or experienced persons working under their direct supervision.
    Never point a firearm at anyone including yourself. Always cheat the shot by aiming to the right or left of the target character. If asked to point and shoot directly at a living target, consult with the property master or armorer for the prescribed safety procedures.
    If you are the intended target of a gunshot, make sure that the person firing at you has followed all these safety procedures.
    If you are required to wear exploding blood squibs, make sure there is a bulletproof vest or other solid protection between you and the blast packet.
    Use protective shields for all off stage cast within close proximity to any shots fired.
    Appropriate ear protection should be offered to the cast members and stage managers.
    Check the firearm every time you take possession of it. Before each use, make sure the gun has been test-fired off stage and then ask to test fire it yourself. Watch the prop master check the cylinders and barrel to be sure no foreign object or dummy bullet has become lodged inside.
    Blanks are extremely dangerous. Even though they do not fire bullets out of the gun barrel, they still have a powerful blast than can maim or kill.
    Never attempt to adjust, modify or repair a firearm yourself. If a weapon jams or malfunctions, corrections shall be made only by a qualified person.
    When a scene is completed, the property master shall unload the firearms. All weapons must be cleaned, checked and inventoried after each performance.
    Live ammunition may not be brought into the theater.
    If you are in a production where shots are to be fired and there is no qualified property master, go to the nearest phone and call Actors' Equity Association. A union representative will make sure proper procedures are followed.
    State and federal safety laws must be honored at all times.
    If any of the above safety tips conflict with the instructions given by a qualified instructor, abide by the instructions from the qualified instructor. If you are still not sure, contact your Equity Business Representative
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    That's what the army does, but that's not what Hollywood does. They put some shot in the cartridge so it looks normal but it rattles. There may be scenes where ammunition is handled on screen, so the cartridges need to look normal. They sound different though. Normally that is carefully checked one round at a time.

    Lawyers are discussing this on various forums but they are just looking at normal gun safety rules. Hollywood has its own rules and it depends on whether TPTB give them credence or not.
    reading how in the US everyone is getting their panties in a twist over this (very unfortunate) shooting, but somehow seem to completely skate over the regular school shootings
    it's not a bad thing till you throw a KLR into the mix.
    those cheap ass bitches can do anything with ductape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    reading how in the US everyone is getting their panties in a twist over this (very unfortunate) shooting, but somehow seem to completely skate over the regular school shootings
    I was thinking of that exact same scenario



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    So the sheriff and the DA gave a press conference. It only took a week. It's fair to say we didn't learn much. We learned that a lead bullet was pulled from the shoulder of the director. We might have suspected that but now we know.

    Basically that press conference could have been given the next morning. At this speed by the time they announce any charges we won't know what they are referring to. We'll have forgotten.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    reading how in the US everyone is getting their panties in a twist over this (very unfortunate) shooting, but somehow seem to completely skate over the regular school shootings
    The furor I think has come from people who preach most vociferously about Gun Control and Gun Safety have demonstrated their hypocrisy:

    'Do as I say, not as I do'

    Same with the people who preach about Climate Change, whilst traveling in a private jet to attend a climate conference.

    I said above, I thought the treatment of Alec was harsh - even though the Equity rules that Pritch posted suggests he as the Actor should bare some blame (and Definitely as the Producer...)

    But I understand why it's struck a Chord.
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    What they really needed on set is a good guy with a gun.


    Probably too soon. Poor lass went to work and didn't come home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    reading how in the US everyone is getting their panties in a twist over this (very unfortunate) shooting, but somehow seem to completely skate over the regular school shootings
    Only the press are talking about it, no one else cares.

    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    I was thinking of that exact same scenario
    That's because you are an idiot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    reading how in the US everyone is getting their panties in a twist over this (very unfortunate) shooting, but somehow seem to completely skate over the regular school shootings

    As usual when a tragedy involves somebody famous it is grabbed with both hands by the media - "If it bleeds - it leads"
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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    What they really needed on set is a good guy with a gun.
    Indeed - because a Good Guy would have pointed out the unsafe practices


    (There's a Will Smith clip that's been doing the rounds where someone is being a fuckwit with a prop firearm and Will slaps the firearm back to a safe direction)
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    Apparently the NZDF lost something like 1700 AR Style Magazines.

    One rule for the Government, another for Firearm owners...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    Apparently the NZDF lost something like 1700 AR Style Magazines.

    One rule for the Government, another for Firearm owners...
    That wouldn't even be the tip of the iceberg. Better you don't know, it'd only give you ulcers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    That wouldn't even be the tip of the iceberg. Better you don't know, it'd only give you ulcers.
    I don't doubt that for a second - that will only be the ones that have been noticed as missing...

    I just find it hilarious after the Government insisted that engraving now-Prohibited Magazines would stop them falling into Criminal hands....


    On a different note - I've been watching a lot on the Legal proceedings on Rust and also some commentary in and around it.

    So far, my feeling is that the Armorer is probably going to face some form of legal repercussion, So will Alec. The Severity of which remains to be seen.
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    Has anyone been keeping up with Kyle Rittenhouse Trial?

    Prosecution: "So, he only shot you, when you pulled out your concealed weapon and advanced on him?"
    Communist Revolutionary:"Yes"



    The prosecution's face literally collapsed.

    Based on the evidence presented, I don't think there could be a more clear-cut case of Self-Defence.

    I've also heard rumours that because of how blatantly clear it is, that they might be going after the prosecution/DA for even bringing the case to trial...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    Has anyone been keeping up with Kyle Rittenhouse Trial?

    Prosecution: "So, he only shot you, when you pulled out your concealed weapon and advanced on him?"
    Communist Revolutionary:"Yes"

    I would like to see your data showing proof that this bloke is a communist revolutionary, and not say.... some gang banger looking to steal shit and cause trouble?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    I would like to see your data showing proof that this bloke is a communist revolutionary, and not say.... some gang banger looking to steal shit and cause trouble?


    Specifically starting at 5:04.

    'You are a member of the Peoples Revolution'
    "No I'm not"
    'But you've spoken at their rallies'
    "I have at one"
    'And during that Rally have you made statements such as "Long live the Revolution"'
    "I have"
    'And you have no affiliation with them?'
    "Affiliation? Yes"

    Court testimony, under Oath - is that sufficient data for you?
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