The firearm thread

[Swoop]

Christchurch gunshop was asking $3000 for the same rifle.

Chch seem to know how to price things...

Oops! Was meant to have included the word "over" in there somewhere. Where would it fit?

[Drunken Monkey]

You sure it wasn't a springfield armory one at that price? They had some SOCOM spec ones for about $4000 probably this time last year. A synthetic stock, M14 carbine with picatinny rails. They were the shiz.

[deanohit]

Was told to avoid Norinco by a mate, but my mum bought me a JW15 .22LR a few years back for possum and rabbit control and have fallen in love with it. With winchester subsonics in it, its a real tack driver doing sub 1" groups at 50 metres when I'm on the ball.

[Delerium]

The ones in chch were springfield M1s. I looked at buying one but couldnt justify the expense.

[Mr Merde]

You sure it wasn't a springfield armory one at that price? They had some SOCOM spec ones for about $4000 probably this time last year. A synthetic stock, M14 carbine with picatinny rails. They were the shiz.

They were selling them on Trade me and they were Norinco versions. I had a good look and then went to a site in Canada where they were selling them for $350 Canadian. Thought then they were asking way too much.

Was told to avoid Norinco by a mate, but my mum bought me a JW15 .22LR a few years back for possum and rabbit control and have fallen in love with it. With winchester subsonics in it, its a real tack driver doing sub 1" groups at 50 metres when I'm on the ball.

I have two Norinco firearms. A JW15 , which is a copy of the BRNO rifle, it is a lovely shooter. Woodwork is a bit shit but I have had no problems with the rifle.

The other is a copy of an 1887 Winchester lever action shotgun and this is a great firearm. Again the woodwork leaves a lot to be dersired but the functioning of it is flawless.

I have also had occasion to use the copy of the 1897 pump action shotgun and again find little fault apart from the woodwork.

My 2 cents worth.

[jrandom]

Agreed re. Norinco. Their JW14/15 .22LRs are astoundingly good for the price. $350 for a new one with suppressor and a 4X scope at most gunshops, and I guarantee you that the average punter wouldn't do any better shooting with a 10/22 at three times the sticker price.

They also make a very nice 1911 clone, once again for less than half the price of the Paras etc. Not all Chinese engineering is bad.

[deanohit]

Found on Trademe this morning, NORINCO M305 M14 .308 SEMI AUTO.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Sports/Hunt...-112629541.htm

Would have to agree about the woodwork on norinco rifles been second rate. I trimmed parts of the stock and sanded mine right back nice and smooth then stained it a very dark black, then varnished it. Looks way better than it did before and is alot more comfortable. I hope to get around to making a full custom stock for it out of NZ native hardwood. Have any of you used a NZ hardwood as a stock before?

[Mr Merde]

Are these faithfull copies of the M14 or are they the M1A1 version.

From what I have read the US gov created the M1A1 basically for the civilian market as the M14 has the capability of being converted to fire "rock and roll".

The M1A1 is strictly semi auto only.

Converting the M14 is no more complicated than converting the M1 carbine to a M2

[jrandom]

Are these faithfull copies of the M14 or are they the M1A1 version.

Based on what I can gather from the interwebs, I strongly suspect that the M305s are are exact M14 copies, with the correct connector openings in the receiver to allow a full-auto selector switch, although that may have changed at some point during M305 manufacture.

It'll be interesting to check the production dates of the units that Sportways have in stock. I'm not sure if any of the guys there are intimately familiar with M14s/M1As, so the question of exactly how close to the original "rock 'n' roll capable" receiver design they are may not be immediately answerable.

[jrandom]

Ian at Sportways confirms that the M305s are faithful M14 copies, rather than clones of the M1A.

Each of the guys working at the shop has nabbed one, and minus the one I put on layby today, they have eight left. Another chap walked in to look at the display rifle just as I finished with it; I suspect they'll go like hotcakes.

I'll pick mine up on Wednesday or Thursday next week.

My very own M14

[Mr Merde]

Ian at Sportways confirms that the M305s are faithful M14 copies, rather than clones of the M1A.

Each of the guys working at the shop has nabbed one, and minus the one I put on layby today, they have eight left. Another chap walked in to look at the display rifle just as I finished with it; I suspect they'll go like hotcakes.

I'll pick mine up on Wednesday or Thursday next week.

My very own M14

That was me. Very impressed with the rifle. going to be really nice to her indoors.

Loved the way they got round the flash suppressor on the barrel. No holes or grooves to the thing so it is just an ornament.

[jrandom]

That was me. Very impressed with the rifle. going to be really nice to her indoors.

Loved the way they got round the flash suppressor on the barrel. No holes or grooves to the thing so it is just an ornament.

Ah, was it? Heh, I did wonder, but was ever so slightly too shy to walk up and ask. Did you notice me? Black shirt, scruffy, slightly criminal-looking, etc. [Edit: Actually, come to think of it, unless you look quite a bit younger than you've said you are on the forum, I suspect that there was another guy looking at the rifle in between our visits. I turned up at about 11:50am. Told you they'd go like hotcakes!]

And yes, if you're not up to the job yourself, your 'muzzle brake' can be left at the shop and machined out to match the standard M14 'muzzle brake', post-purchase. You just have to ask the right guy nicely.

[Mr Merde]

Ah, was it? Heh, I did wonder, but was ever so slightly too shy to walk up and ask. Did you notice me? Black shirt, scruffy, slightly criminal-looking, etc. [Edit: Actually, come to think of it, unless you look quite a bit younger than you've said you are on the forum, I suspect that there was another guy looking at the rifle in between our visits. I turned up at about 11:50am. Told you they'd go like hotcakes!]

And yes, if you're not up to the job yourself, your 'muzzle brake' can be left at the shop and machined out to match the standard M14 'muzzle brake', post-purchase. You just have to ask the right guy nicely.

Someone else.

I have access to a milling machine, but thought rather that milling all the grooves out it may be better to drill holes of varying widths on the verticle grooves.

Turn it into a muzzle brake that will aid in controlling flip.

As in magna porting.

[Mr Merde]

I went down and had another long look at these rifles.

I have been lusting after one of these (M14 or M1A) for some time now.

Spent a few hours on the internet last night looking into the whys and wherefores.

Her indoors says yes but not all in one go.

Popped down and asked about layby.

Payday next Friday. If there are any left I will put one aside.

Oh goody another caliber to handload for.

[ghost]

Anyone in the South Auckland area have any contacts for a couple of "citizens of reliable standing" to conduct pest destruction on their behalf?

Any size considered from mice to goats and pigs, the old 30-30 dont mind much.

This is a public forum so we wont discuss the child abusers here......