The firearm thread

**Brett** · 2nd February 2009, 15:25

Originally Posted by Indiana_Jones

I don't think anything super special needs to be done, obviously you would need to declare it etc.

As long as there's no ammo in it, it's just a club. gets stuck in the cargo.

Best you ring up a few companies and see what the deal is.

EDIT: What sort of guns?

-Indy

Yeah trying to do that now.

They are a .22 long rifle and a 30.06. Both beautiful guns.

**Brett** · 2nd February 2009, 15:27

Originally Posted by Swoop

A very dodgy area to get into.
Some countries will not even allow your shipment to overfly into their airspace!!!
Talk to someone with good knowledge regarding doing this. A licenced arms dealer would be a starting point. Your local arms officer would be another.

Wow, didn't realise that some countries were that anal. What then would say someone who goes overseas on hunting trips do? Will head into serious shooters tomorrow and ask some questions. I know a few immigrants who just throw them into the container when they are coming over here. Worst comes to worst, may have to go fetch them in person.

**Mr Merde** · 2nd February 2009, 22:17

Originally Posted by Sniper

Tried it. Impressed to a point and dissapointed as well. Im confused....

Nice to see you back Sniper. Missed your contributions to this thread.

Will bre down your way in November.

The missus has decided it is time we went on a road trip.

My relatives in Invergiggle have been giving me greif about not visiting them. Sharron has decided we will go down for the Burt Munro e vent this year. She is planning a 3 week trip.

Chris

**Sniper** · 2nd February 2009, 22:20

Originally Posted by Mr Merde

Nice to see you back Sniper. Missed your contributions to this thread.

Will bre down your way in November.

The missus has decided it is time we went on a road trip.

My relatives in Invergiggle have been giving me greif about not visiting them. Sharron has decided we will go down for the Burt Munro e vent this year. She is planning a 3 week trip.

Chris

Thanks, yea, Im hoping to be home in November sometime, currently residing in Aus making money.

I still owe you alot of beers anyway.

BTW, going buffalo hunting next week

**Mr Merde** · 2nd February 2009, 22:28

Originally Posted by Sniper

Thanks, yea, Im hoping to be home in November sometime, currently residing in Aus making money.

I still owe you alot of beers anyway.

BTW, going buffalo hunting next week

Nice one. What shooter are you taking?

What are you doing in Aussie?

**Sniper** · 2nd February 2009, 22:47

Originally Posted by Mr Merde

Nice one. What shooter are you taking?

What are you doing in Aussie?

Working on a mine site on Groote Eylandt as a machinery operator and on the blast crew.

Not sure on the shooter, its a guided hunting trip shouted by one of the bosses, I was just told to come along.

**Indiana_Jones** · 3rd February 2009, 08:26

Get my PM Chris?

-Indy

**ManDownUnder** · 3rd February 2009, 09:34

Originally Posted by Indiana_Jones

I don't think anything super special needs to be done, obviously you would need to declare it etc.

Ummmm... not sure about South Africa... but here's an intro to getting stuff out of the US of A.

Step one - make sure you are allowed to actually export the thing. Getting an Export Control Classification Number (ECCN)

In an interesting twist... even if you don't need an ECCN for some objects (scopes to NZ for example are classed "EAR99" meaning it's ok)... but you still need to apply, have your application rejected... then show that rejection to the powers that be if they ask for it to prove you're all in the clear. It takes a few months too... and phone calls... etc. And if you think you can find someone in the US you can buy off and they will ship interbnation - even though it's actually ok... ummm - nuh. Or if you can - ring me - I want projectiles!

So - anyone want to buy a scope? (I have 2 more to sell... Weaver Grand Slam 3.5-10x50)

**Indiana_Jones** · 3rd February 2009, 10:26

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

So - anyone want to buy a scope? (I have 2 more to sell... Weaver Grand Slam 3.5-10x50)

Donno if that'll suit and fit my side mount for the Mosin.

Might get a newer/similar, even a PU for her sometime.

-Indy

**Mr Merde** · 3rd February 2009, 10:29

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

...Or if you can - ring me - I want projectiles!

......

Ever thought about swaging your own? Check oiut www.corbins.com

They sell swaging equipment.

Also check out some of the Barnes Bullets for sale on TradeMe

I know NZ is really expensive to get any components.

**ManDownUnder** · 3rd February 2009, 10:36

Originally Posted by Mr Merde

Check oiut www.corbins.com

LOL.... you really are a bad bad man...

... most excellent...

**Mr Merde** · 3rd February 2009, 10:46

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

LOL.... you really are a bad bad man...

... most excellent...

The beauty of swaging is the very exact tollerances you can get. You can also swage into a copper jacket.

It would probably be more ecconomical if a couple of people got together and bought the equipment.

The press is the big purchase. After that you by individual dies for your calibre. You can even get top dies that give you any tip to the bullet you require.

Read the site. Facinating subject that has piqued my interest now for a few years.

One thing that has intrigued me is that you can use cases from the .22 to make jackets for bullets. talk about recycling.

**Indiana_Jones** · 3rd February 2009, 11:04

That looks sweet!

-Indy

**Mr Merde** · 3rd February 2009, 11:23

With kit like this you coulkd make bullets for any calibre you care to. Allyou need are the dies and punches. You can even automate the process so that you can produce greater quantities of bullets.

Imagine if you bought a rifle where the bore wasnt exactly the diameter stated. Its worn or waas made to a tolerance.

The old Marlins chambered for 38-55 could vary to +- 0.02 inch

With kit like this you could make a bullet to fit.

If you want to try a different shape, a different nose, a different mateial. no problem swaging.

Plastic bullets. Why not. Solid copper, no problem, aluminium bullets, can be done.

The possibilities are varied.

Do I sound like a preacher. I would love to own this equipment.

No hot metal, no warming up time, no danger from fumes and the possibility of an explosion in the lead pot. (had one the other day and hot lead went all over my work bench. luckily I was about 4 feet from it but it still made me nervous)

Chris