The firearm thread

**sidecar bob** · 23rd March 2019, 18:47

Originally Posted by AllanB

Shit man I may have to vote for the big J next year the way she is taking control and doing stuff finally. Now if she could just reduce the ACC portion on my motorcycle rego I'd happy.

She did what any of us could have done, looked sincere & said a few things. Nothing I couldn't have pulled with plausibility, and punished all gun owners using the high emotion of the country as a platform.
She's had it served up on a platter to pander to the gullible once again.

**husaberg** · 23rd March 2019, 19:32

Originally Posted by sidecar bob

She did what any of us could have done, looked sincere & said a few things. Nothing I couldn't have pulled with plausibility, and punished all gun owners using the high emotion of the country as a platform.
She's had it served up on a platter to pander to the gullible once again.

How was this different from 1990 when Jim Boger did not ban MSSA's his goverment just created a separate category for them even though one was used to kill a large number of people by a deranged loser.Who for the most part used a SKS (sorry it was a semi AK47 copy)
The gun makers soon skirted around this.

**Swoop** · 23rd March 2019, 20:05

Originally Posted by YellowDog

Please can someone put me straight on this?

My only semi-auto rifle is a cheap and nasty Norinco SKS (7.62 x 39), and magazines that only hold 5 rounds.

As it doesn't have a pistol grip and doesn't fire more than 7 shots, I consider this gun to still be legal for a CAT A licence holder?

Yes, your rifle is fine. (you say "magazines" though. Is it fully fixed into the stock and loaded through the action?
OR, does it accept detachable box mags?

SKS + Fixed mag.
SKK = Detachable mags, same type as AK's.

Originally Posted by pritch

Was out on ride this morning and heard a strange story. Bill who is getting on a bit, used to have B, C and E endorsements on his firearms licence but he has long since sold all of his guns. His licence is still valid but he's just waiting for it to expire. He received a phone call from someone at the police, they wanted to check his security.

Bill told the guy that he'd sold all his guns and that their records should confirm that fact. His safe is empty plus they are holding photographs of his safe so they should not need to visit.

It was all to no avail, the guy insisted.

Not un-surprising.
Just guess how accurate their registry of firearms is...

**sidecar bob** · 23rd March 2019, 20:15

Originally Posted by husaberg

How was this different from 1990 when Jim Boger did not ban MSSA's his goverment just created a separate category for them even though one was used to kill a large number of people by a deranged loser.Who for the most part used a SKS
The gun makers soon skirted around this.

I'm not sure, but that doesn't make my post any less correct.

**husaberg** · 23rd March 2019, 22:37

Originally Posted by sidecar bob

I'm not sure, but that doesn't make my post any less correct.

How do you figure that, its okay to say she was decisive even if you don't like cCndy or what she did.
Think of it like angry sex. Just because she pisses you off it doesn't make it less enjoyable.

**husaberg** · 23rd March 2019, 22:40

Originally Posted by Swoop

Yes, your rifle is fine. (you say "magazines" though. Is it fully fixed into the stock and loaded through the action?
OR, does it accept detachable box mags?

SKS + Fixed mag.
SKK = Detachable mags, same type as AK's.

i Dont think so

Then you can also make it QD mag in or at bolt open or closed with a file or a grander in 15 minutes

Also if you look at the guncity site you will see they have been removed
https://www.guncity.com/762x39-issue...-5-shot-231050

MSSAs include: semi-automatics capable of being used with a detachable magazine with more than five cartridges; and semi-automatic shotguns capable of being used with a detachable magazine holding more than five cartridges

3. What semi-automatic firearms are affected by Thursday's Order in Council?
Two types of firearms are now defined as Military Style Semi-Automatics (MSSAs):
A semi-automatic firearm capable of being used with a detachable magazine which holds more than five cartridges
https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/natio...church-attacks
2. What semi-automatic firearms will NOT be affected by the ban?
There is a balance to be struck between public safety and legitimate use. The changes exclude two general classes of firearms which are commonly used for hunting, pest control, stock management on farms, and duck shooting:
Semi-automatic .22 calibre rimfire firearms with a magazine which holds no more than ten rounds
Semi-automatic and pump action shotguns with a non-detachable tubular magazine which holds no more than five rounds

**TheDemonLord** · 23rd March 2019, 23:14

Hmmmmmm....

Ideas....

https://uintahprecision.com/product/...pper-assembly/

**jasonu** · 24th March 2019, 03:46

Originally Posted by sidecar bob

She did what any of us could have done, looked sincere & said a few things. Nothing I couldn't have pulled with plausibility, and punished all gun owners using the high emotion of the country as a platform.
She's had it served up on a platter to pander to the gullible once again.

I've been thinking the same thing for days. I'll wager there is some sort of publicist team in the background ensuring she gets the most out of this situation (as any politician would).
But yes, don't be fooled. Sooner she and her hapless followers will be back to their usual daily fuck ups.

**jasonu** · 24th March 2019, 03:49

Originally Posted by TheDemonLord

Hmmmmmm....

Ideas....

https://uintahprecision.com/product/...pper-assembly/

Do it asap. Banning semi autos will be just the beginning.

**Laava** · 24th March 2019, 08:00

Originally Posted by TheDemonLord

Hmmmmmm....

Ideas....

https://uintahprecision.com/product/...pper-assembly/

Lol, what a fucking waste of $3000! You could buy a way better rifle with the money. Of course you won't look like Rambo!

**pritch** · 24th March 2019, 09:12

Originally Posted by husaberg

Being thorough i guess?
The best you can do is do checks?

Checking a safe known to be empty is not thorough, it's stupid.
The police records show that his guns have all been sold - and who he sold them to.

It's not as if they are going to find an illegal gun, they ring up and make an appointment for the visit.

**Laava** · 24th March 2019, 10:15

Originally Posted by pritch

The police records show that his guns have all been sold - and who he sold them to.

Are you sure about that? I am not required to notify the police if I buy or sell a gun under any circumstances. Not saying this is how it should be, just how it is at the moment.
in any case, the guy who comes to inspect your safe, same people who do your relicense here in the far north, is from the Mountain Safety Council or somesuch

**husaberg** · 24th March 2019, 10:53

Originally Posted by pritch

Checking a safe known to be empty is not thorough, it's stupid.
The police records show that his guns have all been sold - and who he sold them to.

It's not as if they are going to find an illegal gun, they ring up and make an appointment for the visit.

Maybe the rules are they have to be checked in person.

Originally Posted by jasonu

I've been thinking the same thing for days. I'll wager there is some sort of publicist team in the background ensuring she gets the most out of this situation (as any politician would).
But yes, don't be fooled. Sooner she and her hapless followers will be back to their usual daily fuck ups.

Do you realise that she is an actual clever bugger in her own right Jason?
As well as being being a senior policy adviser to Tony Blair, she also has a Bachelor of Communication Studies (BCS) in politics and public relations.
Imagine how far she could have got with a orange fake tan smaller hands ans a small loan of a 120 MILLION DOLLARS.

**jasonu** · 24th March 2019, 13:21

Originally Posted by husaberg

Maybe the rules are they have to be checked in person.

Do you realise that she is an actual clever bugger in her own right Jason?
As well as being being a senior policy adviser to Tony Blair, she also has a Bachelor of Communication Studies (BCS) in politics and public relations.
Imagine how far she could have got with a orange fake tan smaller hands ans a small loan of a 120 MILLION DOLLARS.

Mate I don't think she is thick, just stupid and ignorant