View Poll Results: Which firearm types do you own?

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  • Shotgun (single, double, pump, lever, bolt)

    291 31.91%
  • Shotgun Auto (non MSSA)

    96 10.53%
  • Rifle (single, double, pump, lever, bolt)

    408 44.74%
  • Rifle Auto (non MSSA)

    177 19.41%
  • MSSA

    66 7.24%
  • Pistol

    78 8.55%
  • Black powder (rifle, pistol, shotgun)

    35 3.84%
  • Air/Gas (pistol, rifle)

    313 34.32%
  • un-armed

    305 33.44%
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    Listening to the Minister of Police on the radio this morning, he mentioned that the figure proposed for the buy back scheme isn't all for buying back guns, IIRC he said sixty million is for administration of the scheme.

    He explained that "business users" should have written off the cost of any firearms over five years. Presumably he considers they don't qualify for any additional payment for firearms they've had for that time.

    The police are still working on how to calculate the value of privately owned firearms. He says he wants to be fair but he doesn't want to spend any extra money above their estimate.

    Listening to him wasn't particularly reassuring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pound View Post
    Yet another article highlighting just how screwed up the current system is....

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/113...er-gang-member
    seized 6 .22 bullets. Great job NZ Fuzz...
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post

    Listening to him wasn't particularly reassuring.
    Sounds like a total fiasco run by fucking clueless morons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    The police are still working on how to calculate the value of privately owned firearms. He says he wants to be fair but he doesn't want to spend any extra money above their estimate.

    Listening to him wasn't particularly reassuring.
    The only value that "should" be used, is the current resale value. They originally mentioned BetradeMe as a baseline reference, but auctions around the country will also give a good guide too (Carvell's, Antique Arms Assn, etc, etc).
    It is becoming more obvious that they intend to try and do the confiscation on the cheap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    The only value that "should" be used, is the current resale value. They originally mentioned BetradeMe as a baseline reference, but auctions around the country will also give a good guide too (Carvell's, Antique Arms Assn, etc, etc).
    It is becoming more obvious that they intend to try and do the confiscation on the cheap.
    Unless mistreated firearms don't loose much value from the new price. It's not like vehicles where a new better model shows up every couple of years. My Rock River Arms AR15 cost $950 new 8 years ago and resales now for around $800. It will hold that value for pretty much forever.
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    The prices for confiscated firearms is being released tomorrow (according to Te News) and you will not get back what you paid for each firearm.
    Not even retail price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    The prices for confiscated firearms is being released tomorrow (according to Te News) and you will not get back what you paid for each firearm.
    Not even retail price.

    You''' be lucky to get 1/2 what you paid.
    My guess is 1/3 retail.
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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...with-acc-money

    I wonder how many will simply not hand their guns in........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pound View Post
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...with-acc-money

    I wonder how many will simply not hand their guns in........
    The ones that dont will be criminals.
    Which is exactly what the gun lobby and other on here claimed ad nausea that they were not.........
    So simply put, if they cant comply with the NZ firearms law.
    Why exactly should they have firearms in the first place. How exactly are they any different than any other criminal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberk View Post
    The ones that dont will be criminals.
    Which is exactly what the gun lobby and other on here claimed ad nausea that they were not.........
    So simply put, if they cant comply with the NZ firearms law.
    Why exactly should they have firearms in the first place. How exactly are they any different than any other criminal.
    You have the reasoning skills of a 6 year old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    You have the reasoning skills of a 6 year old.
    Your being to kind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    You have the reasoning skills of a 6 year old.
    Go on then, maybe you can explain, how those that don't obey the law and hand in their now illegal firearms as the law clearly directs them to, are not criminals then?
    It will be interesting seeing how you explain that one.
    Especially seeing as you have declared yourself to be in possession of superior reasoning skills.
    Unless of course your reasoning skill are actually less than what you ascribe as being a 6 year old's ability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberk View Post
    Go on then, maybe you can explain, how those that don't obey the law and hand in their now illegal firearms as the law clearly directs them to, are not criminals then?
    It will be interesting seeing how you explain that one.
    Especially seeing as you have declared yourself to be in possession of superior reasoning skills.
    Unless of course your reasoning skill are actually less than what you ascribe as being a 6 year old's ability.
    How is it any different to the powers that be deciding that too many people are being injured or dying on higher cc motorcycles and overnight demanding that people hand in any motorcycles that they own over 500 cc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    How is it any different to the powers that be deciding that too many people are being injured or dying on higher cc motorcycles and overnight demanding that people hand in any motorcycles they own over 500 cc?
    Sounds like the reasoning of a 5 year old ,answer the question or slink off back to the conspiracy threads.
    Here is a hint, you dont get to pick and choose to follow what laws you consider just. Unless you are a criminal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberk View Post
    Sounds like the reasoning of a 5 year old ,answer the question or slink off back to the conspiracy threads.
    Here is a hint, you dont get to pick and choose to follow what laws you consider just. Unless you are a criminal.
    So you'd expect everyone to happily hand in their >500 cc motorcycles in the above scenario - and if they refused, you'd view them as criminals?

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