Up yours ya arrogant Telecom bast*rds

[boomer]

What I don't understand, if Telecom is such a big earner, why was it sold in the first place? A quick cash out and the money used on other things?

Why was BT, BR etc etc sold... These companies bring in BIG money, unfortunately the dickheads left running them and teh mentalities from yester year make them hellish places to work or be a customer to.

the GOVERMENT needs to say NO.. pull ya fukin socks up you thieving bastards.

[boomer]

And I might add, it's not just ADSL Telecom are screwing with. At work, we run multiple data circuits to our various customers. We have just been told that these circuits won't be available soon and if we don't upgrade (to a more expensive service) they'll increase the price.

Can you imagine if any of us tried that on with our customers? If I did I'd be out of business in a week and have to work for a prick like me.

Lube anyone?

[RT527]

I`m going to stay with orcon, they are going to introduce vdsl gear at the exchanges which are capable of up to 100mb/s only drawback is it only works approx half the distance from the exchange that broadband does.not a problem where I am..I`m 130 mtrs from the exchange.

And it runs on copper to the exchange too .

With that technology which apparently has been in use overseas for the last 3 yrs, orcon are looking to do The whole deal thing...phone,internet connection and TV for 1 package price.

[Finn]

This broadband fuckup is just another example of a market forces fuckup. We saw much the same sort of thing with the rail. A resource plundered for foreign investors that New Zealand had to regain control over the tracks. If what J2 has said is true and I have no reason to doubt him someone needs standing up against the wall and asked to give an explanation prior to the ready, aim, etc.

As for the woman who appeared on Campbell Live Some speech therapy along with a new wardrobe might be in order.

Skyryder

True, but if you remember back in the day when we owned it, a new phone connection would take 3 years, the phones had crank handles on them and it cost $3,578,580 per minute to call Australia. If we still owned it, you wouldn't be able to read this informative post as the internet wouldn't exist.

Lets face it. NZ can't run big business, especially the government. We don't have the skill or the money.

[boomer]

Never mind 3G, Vodyphoney would make a fortune if they improved rural coverage and flogged reasonably priced unlimited GPRS plans (would work nicely with them vodem things).

No they wouldn't, make a fortune that is. why would they spend millions on 'a' site in the middle of no where, NEVER.. NEVER .. and i mean NEVER to recoup the money spent on the infrastructure.. just so Cowpoos and his mates can watch pr0n?

It's not a viable option to put cell sites in the sticks mate, theres just not the traffic/$.

I don't disagree that it'd be nice but it doesn't make business sense unfortunately... population density is where the coin is. Happy farmers are all well and good but they don't put food on Arin's plate... he's got a lot of hungry little indian mouths to feed

[Hitcher]

TelstraClear fibre. Certainly better than dial-up...

[James Deuce]

Ok Jim, you obviously know more about this than I, but from what I've read above, it was your fault?

My fault for not being able to convince my bosses, the Telecom Board, and Foreign Investors to Invest in NZ's future. However they didn't want to invest in it. They just wanted the cash.

[boomer]

My fault for not being able to convince my bosses, the Telecom Board, and Foreign Investors to Invest in NZ's future. However they didn't want to invest in it. They just wanted the cash.

Next time you go to one of those big board/exec meetings/presentations, remember to cut out the techy stuff and speak english show them the MONEY!

[James Deuce]

I wish. I haven't worked at Telecom since '96, and my "career" has been in terminal decline ever since. Something about "not respecting Authority Figures", whatever the fuck they are.

[RT527]

My fault for not being able to convince my bosses, the Telecom Board, and Foreign Investors to Invest in NZ's future. However they didn't want to invest in it. They just wanted the cash.

Why should they , they are after all not NZ`ers......which is more than likely what they were thinking...mind you i never listened to you Either and I`m doing ok....[jk]

[Finn]

I wish. I haven't worked at Telecom since '96, and my "career" has been in terminal decline ever since. Something about "not respecting Authority Figures", whatever the fuck they are.

You need to call Campbell Live and tell them your story. They love this kind of stuff.

Do it, do it, do it!

[Edbear]

. There problem is that developing and implementing the technology doesn't make dividends for shareholders.

I fail to see the logic in this! Surely an advanced technology programme would be the best investment? You make it sound like people have simply been using Telecom as a cash cow and milking it for their short term benefit...

(Didn't that happen to rail and so the NZ Gummit bailed them out and bought it all back?) Why do I get a sense of De ja whatsit?

I'm confused..!

[0arbreaka]

I feel the need for some angry mob with pitch forks and various other weapons to do something about/to Telescum...

[Paul in NZ]

Gee - the free market at work? We got what we voted for...

[Dai]

Did ya not consider that maybe we're in the 3rd world? As far as technology is concerned at any rate...

Not just as far as technology, in all aspects of life, this country ranks amongst the lesser developed. Socially, politically and ecconomically.

I deliberately didnt use the term "third world" until it is explained to me exactly where the "second world" is.