Up yours ya arrogant Telecom bast*rds

**Dai** · 31st January 2007, 08:18

Originally Posted by RT527

I`m going to stay with orcon, they are going to introduce vdsl gear at the exchanges which are capable of up to 100mb/s only drawback is it only works approx half the distance from the exchange that broadband does.not a problem where I am..I`m 130 mtrs from the exchange.

And it runs on copper to the exchange too .

With that technology which apparently has been in use overseas for the last 3 yrs, orcon are looking to do The whole deal thing...phone,internet connection and TV for 1 package price.

VDSL runs on fibre optic cable. Caerphiily in Sth Wales has been wired for this technology as a test case for British Telecom, population about 10,000.

**The_Dover** · 31st January 2007, 08:18

Originally Posted by Dai

I deliberately didnt use the term "third world" until it is explained to me exactly where the "second world" is.

Bangladesh, Somalia, Wales, Gabon, North Korea,l Scotland and all those other places that are technologically and socially in front of New Zealand but behind such great nations as England, Hungary and Kazakhstan.

**Dai** · 31st January 2007, 08:26

Originally Posted by The_Dover

Bangladesh, Somalia, Wales, Gabon, North Korea,l Scotland and all those other places that are technologically and socially in front of New Zealand but behind such great nations as England, Hungary and Kazakhstan.

Thank you Dover me old mate,

I have no problem with your examples except for the inclusion of England. Surely this nation, while once a shining example of progressiveness, has now become nothing more than a reservoir for the worlds misfits and social rejects.

A country that holds a very special place in the world. The dumping pot for all those with excess population.

**Bloody Mad Woman (BMW)** · 31st January 2007, 08:27

Jim2 - I had a friend that explained all that to me so I'm glad you posted the facts. He is in the telecommunications field and an expert - we often have long conversations on this - ah correction - he talks, I listen, but manage to ask the odd intelligent question!! He told me Telecom would not listen to advisors and couldn't conceive how big internet would get.

**The_Dover** · 31st January 2007, 08:44

Originally Posted by Dai

England. Surely this nation, while once a shining example of progressiveness, has now become nothing more than a reservoir for the worlds misfits and social rejects.

Someone's got to take in all the fuckin kiwi's on their Big OE.

**Lias** · 31st January 2007, 08:55

I had to laugh at our fucking retard minister cunliffe going on about how we need fibre to the door.

FUCK fibre to the door, if anything that would just exacerbate the problem because every cock would be trying to leech at 1gb/s, and we'd still have no backhaul capacity.. A decent ADSL2 connection is fine for me Hell even ADSl that actually worked at connect speed would do..

What we need is more backhaul bandwith, and a fuckload of that.. We need much lower contention ratios (I'm thinking single digits not 1:150).

Telecom needs to A: Lay and/or liven up a hell of a lot more backbone fibre in NZ, and B: Liven the entire southern cross cable up.

Personally I think Telecom should be "compulsorily acquired" and renationalised by the govt as a not for profit SOE.. It still charges us like normal but all that money is plowed back into improving our national backbone etc. We'd have world class service in a year or two :-)

**Karma** · 31st January 2007, 08:57

Originally Posted by Dai

VDSL runs on fibre optic cable. Caerphiily in Sth Wales has been wired for this technology as a test case for British Telecom, population about 10,000.

There's a trial in south auckland as well, fuck knows why it's down there...

Originally Posted by The_Dover

Someone's got to take in all the fuckin kiwi's on their Big OE.

That's true, and all the eastern europeans and the turks, and the afgans, and... well the list goes on really doesn't it...

**Dai** · 31st January 2007, 09:01

Originally Posted by The_Dover

Someone's got to take in all the fuckin kiwi's on their Big OE.

I agree with you there but dont forget that without the kiwis who would run all the pubs in London?

**boomer** · 31st January 2007, 10:17

Originally Posted by Dai

I agree with you there but dont forget that without the kiwis who would run all the pubs in London?

The africana's.. the Turks.. anyone but the english really

**riffer** · 31st January 2007, 10:53

Originally Posted by Weasel

There's a trial in south auckland as well, fuck knows why it's down there...

Mission Heights currently has the fastest internet in the country, with Telecom trialling fibre in all new houses in this suburb. And they get it free for a year too.

**The_Dover** · 31st January 2007, 11:22

Originally Posted by Dover

I recently moved house (about 2km) and at the same time changed my broadband plan to the Go Large plan. Great, I thought, keep my number as it's the same exchange and get a better dsl service. Wrong.

I kept the same number, on the same exchange, got charged $45 for the privilege and STILL my billing address was not changed. Generally when I move house I like my mail to come with me. The blatant rip off charges are insulting enough but to cock up the change of address in the process is nothing but incompetence.

And as for the "Go Large" dsl plan. I think you should rename it "Go Elsewhere" because that is what I expect the majority of your customers will be doing once they experience the pathetic performance. Sure, it's quick during the day (when I was off work sick) but try to use it at any other time and it is, and pardon my language here, completely fucking useless. I've never had so many connection timeouts, not even in the days of shitty old dial up in the Shetland Islands. The endless excuses that Telecom spout to justify their lack of investment in infrastructure is disgusting, especially given the salaries of some of their incompetent, lying, thieving arsehole executives and the share dividends they pay out.

I pity the customer service staff that bare the brunt of the frustration of ripped off, exasperated Telecom customers and await the day that they can go and work for a telecommunications provider that can supply a solution that would be acceptable in the third world.

Telecom should stick to flashy advertising, long lunches and corporate bullshit. Phones and internet don't appear to be within their capabilities.

I'm off to Orcon (again!). Ciao.

PS Note my cellphone number is Vodafone, the lesser of the two evils.

eat shit telescum.

**Insanity_rules** · 31st January 2007, 11:48

I worked for the scumbags too, ending my career as product manager for mobile broadband. Boy did I have to polish a turd to push that product (Sierra wireless, Gtran data cards and moile phone plug in internet access). If the jerks at the top had listened to the planning people rather than being interested in shoveling money at the investors back in the day, then our current predicament wouldn't be here.

I hear very valid rumors that even Russia has better connectivity than we do! I have heard of orcons plan but I don't think they have the cash to play it out and I have also heard of a rumbling plan from actrix (my opinion the best ISP going) regarding connectivity infrastructure but again I don't think they have the coin to impliment it effectively either!

My 2 cents! Telecom chews up and spits out its brightest staff!

BTW Jim2 did you work with a Blonde guy called Allan (last name known but not posted) by any chance?

**Flyingpony** · 31st January 2007, 11:54

I'm in the 4% (didn't bother voting) ... Go DIALUP!

... Same speed all the time, predictable consistency I tell ya!

Edit: In fact, my dialup has improved recently (connects now at 48kbps instead of 42kbps) since Telstra replaced some boards at the exchange my street plugs into

We had an Internet outage but ordinary phone still worked

- that was a hard yarn to tell the tech support people because no body believed me that I had an outage until 25% of the street started complaining