Vacuum packed Vamp
Mr Campbells TV poll just now, just rated Telecoms broadband service a complete dog.
96% of NZer's polled said their service had declined since the "max speed" debacle, a mere 4% said it was better
96% !!!!!!
They cannot argue with this, they cannot say it's "isolated", they cannot push it back on us and say it's something we're doing.
Theresa Gattung declined to appear on camera..........
Homer you shot the zombie Flanders !
He was a Zombie?
Stoke me a clipper!
The 4% is probably Telecom employees made to ring up from their call centre to attempt to make the company look good
Scattering the morning dew
Margin of error +/- 4%.
Incidentally, I have Telstraclear's high speed internet, and am very happy with it.
Moped rider
hahahahahahaha
Forum whore
Urgh... lies, damn lies, and statistics...
The 2006 census of New Zealand shows 4,143,279 residents, can I assume from your post that approximately 3,977,547 people called in against Telecom? Seems like something that might have been noticed earlier...
Or, more logically, could it just be that 96% of the people that called in actually have an issue with Xtra, and that those who don't have an issue couldn't be bothered?
If you go into a shop and buy a coffee and it's just a coffee, you walk off and drink it, if you go in and buy a coffee and it's cold, you go back and complain. Perhaps 1 in 10 people might remark that it was a good coffee. Now if you stood at the counter in that coffee house and remarked on all the people that came up, what would you see?
Can you get where I'm going with this?
For whom the bell tolls
my DSL has always been kinda shit. It'll go sweet for a day or two at best and then i have apparently 'blown the bandwidth' which is bullshit because i only go to a select few websites (cached images etC) and watch a video or two in that time... hardly the 5gig download cap that we have.
KiwiBitcher
where opinion holds more weight than fact.
It's better to not pass and know that you could have than to pass and find out that you can't. Wait for the straight.
Forum whore
i went "go large" and its sloooooooooooooooooooow but i couldnt be arsed texting 55cents to tv3
Scooter boy
have had 3.5 mbs for the last 9 months, has DEFF slowed down on average in the last 3-4 months !!
we are all nutswe just dont know it !!
Stoke me a clipper!
In addition, don't TV3 charge a dollar or something to vote in this poll. Unless you feel VERY strongly I would suggest most people would not be arsed to spend a dollar on a stupid Capbell pollOriginally Posted by Weasel
So much more democratic and useful to make them free but then they would probably need another 10 minutes of ads to pay the bills
Forum whore
Nope, because in this case it isn't valid.
Telecom created this issue deliberately to demonstrate how an unregulated environment would look and made NZ Internet users pay to use a substandard Internet feed.
The fact of the matter is that NZ's Telecommunications Infrastructure can't handle an "unlimited" Internet connection for even a small percentage of Internet users. Not only that Telecom had the cheek to sell an inferior product and when people used it as it was advertised, those people were invited to use a more expensive product with apparently lesser capabilities, but in actuality better throughput capacity, but at a much greater cost.
If you sampled every user using this product you would probably end up with 80% dissatisfied/20% satisfied split. It won't be any better than that. Every geek friend of mine who signed up for it has since dumped it and gone elsewhere, and I'm talking geeks with a couple of decades of gaming and PC fiddling behind them.
It's tosh. It doesn't work as advertised and in a lot of cases it has ended up being a downgrade in actual connected speed, both down and up.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
Vacuum packed Vamp
Yes, but I have a major issue with Telebum's service, and want to vent.
btw... its 96% of those polled, which would have all been "brodband" users, so these are the target market. 96% of NZ does not have broadband. Tsk tsk.
Homer you shot the zombie Flanders !
He was a Zombie?
Stoke me a clipper!
55 cents not $1 like I wrote then ... I was too slow typing my responsei went "go large" and its sloooooooooooooooooooow but i couldnt be arsed texting 55cents to tv3
Cyborg Biker
im in the 4%...
Forum whore
It's been known in this country for some time that the phone network is underdeveloped, reasons being that New Zealand just isn't big enough to generate the sums that need to be put into the network to bring it into line with the rest of the world. When comparing broadband availabilty and speed Helen Clark compares NZ to places such as Korea, USA, UK etc... when in reality with the amount of money to spend on these services perhaps it would be better to compare NZ with some of the medium developed nations such as places in africa of southern america.
Whilst it's clear there are issues with the Go Large plan in particular, the root cause has yet to be identified by all accounts, the NZ population I am sure will show their dissatisfaction in ways they always have, by complaining a lot and not doing a whole lot about it.Not only that Telecom had the cheek to sell an inferior product and when people used it as it was advertised, those people were invited to use a more expensive product with apparently lesser capabilities, but in actuality better throughput capacity, but at a much greater cost.
If you sampled every user using this product you would probably end up with 80% dissatisfied/20% satisfied split. It won't be any better than that. Every geek friend of mine who signed up for it has since dumped it and gone elsewhere, and I'm talking geeks with a couple of decades of gaming and PC fiddling behind them.
It's tosh. It doesn't work as advertised and in a lot of cases it has ended up being a downgrade in actual connected speed, both down and up.
Yeh, I'll give ya that one
Forum whore
Yep. Telecom knew it. The industry knew it. Hell, even a good percentage of the users knew it. Unleashed was always going to be a fuck up. Easy to blame Telecom seeing as they have 'control' over the system... but don't be too deceived...
Multinationals have had a pretty big arm stirring this pot. They want in. Rather than spending money and winning market share with superior service/product, they've (quite cleverly imho) made Telecom out to be bigger dicks than usual. This is how they're going to get in, and get in they will... but we'll still be getting the same old shit, perhaps marginally better. I wonder if these new players are going to spend up large on the infrastructure we need to even get our current expectations met, or they'll just plunder us for the profit they can whilst generally letting the situation stay the same old crap?
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