Depression...

[smoky]

It’s real positive that your talking about it - all of us

They say that people who suffer from depression are on the higher side of the IQ scale.
Always evaluating things and thinking things thru to the endth degree.

As apposed to a genius - they stay focused on a particular point. However most geniuses are reclusive or antisocial or suffer depression

[Grahameeboy]

I believe if you live a pure life, pure as defined by a good heart, doing things from a positive, caring and honest way, then you’ll reap what you sow. Peace.
If you remain open, and if there is a god – an overall omnipotent being, then surely she can find us, get our attention.

Nice post mate...and I agree with above comment..well all really bit this bit in particular.

Its funny with parents who create religious guilt.

Jesus never forced people to believe...when sending his Disciples far and wide he told them to go around villages where they were not interested in the word.

Jesus showed weakness...how many religious parents show that.

My Dad is anti religion (well most things really) and often they will bring this up when I tell them something they don't like........your Church is no good etc......I just say in my head "fuck off" basically and ignore it......

I think Catholic parents can be less flexible. All I can say is that as an Anglican our Church is very flexible, never press ganged me when I first attended and I know many parents who just allow their kids to be free and happy.

Yep Religion can be a pill and it can also be a source of stress when things don't go well and you wonder what you did to deserve it

[Motu]

They say that people who suffer from depression are on the higher side of the IQ scale.

Thank you,that explains it all.This thread has been a puzzle to me,reading about all these problems people have.Now I know why I have never had depression - I did the IQ test in another thread,and it appears I'm fucking stupid....IQ of 78.

[Kittyhawk]

I have to be honnest and say I dont go to church or do religions.

Everyone has beliefs. Weather they are shared with others or not is entirely up to the individual.

However...I have one belief.

I believe I can get over this depression eventually..

[KATWYN]

its so cool, almost sureal that a retarded 4 yr old gives you HOPE.

hope isnt real.

Please tell me your use of the word 'retarded' was a slip of the tongue ? Or am I being particulary sensitive tonight?

[Curious_AJ]

everyone can get over it if they give themselves the chance to do so...

[Busy]

I want to share something I do to brighten up my day, and who knows maybe someone will try it and enjoy it enough to bring a smile, a giggle or brighten up their day a little.

When I'm down I just want to be alone, so I go somewhere, beach, park, *middle of the road* ... some years ago (when driving on trips) I used to pull faces at little kids in the car in front of me and either get them in trouble or make them cry, was kinda fun, but now that I am *clears throat* a mature adult, what I do is just smile at strangers, but not in a Disco Dan fashion (no offence DD ) just smile as if you were saying hi then watch what that person does, is very interesting because most of the time you confuse the heck out of the person. Just look at them and smile, keep smiling until they walk out of range.
I've had some folks walk into things, start walking really fast (but i did have long hair back then), searched (police aren't the people you do it to, they think everyone is on drugs), blush, point at themselves in disbelief, smile at someone else and get slapped (maybe that's where I've seen DD before lol).

Even if you just do it once (and get a good or funny reaction) if you get low again you have a smiley moment you can look back on that may bring you 'up' again.

Oh and if you're really 'low' don't do it to a cat or dog, because they run away as if you've really lost the plot.

I'm sure someone will be thinking you've been watching that ami ad on tv, I've seen it but did this way before that came on the box.

[raster]

Makes me think of the truch in the movie Cars making faces in the truck in front.

The power of the positive mind is amazing!

[ManDownUnder]

but then... it brings confusion... and im sure a lot of people would agree with me that this kind of thing brings much confusion, because, for some reason, its grown to be human nature to "believe" in something higher than themselves...

That's a big conversation. I'm happy leaving each to their own higher power, who or whatever brings comfort or peace in times of need. In respect of depression there are times (I understand) when it seems so hopeless, difficult and unending that there is obvious comfort in being able to simply hand over the reins for a bit - to whatever higher power may be out there.

Having an ongoing relationship with that higher power makes it easier, and more comforting when you need help, from that ultimate source or trust and comfort. I have my wn theories on this but this isn't the time or place. Suffice to say I think everyone needs to find their own confidante and place of comfort, so they can hand over some of their problems for a while - and work on themselves... rest, build yourself up, and take back some of those problems when you are more able to deal with them.

For me it's a philosophical view on life. Every now I just get into a "who gives a shit" mood. I literally shrug off the worries I have and simply ignore them. Anything time critical gets progressively worse of course, but when the consequences come I know I had to do it, so the consequences are simply the price of what I had to do.

That's my way of "handing it over" - I just put things down and walk away for a bit. I'll be back to them when I'm ready... I get some peace and space to clear my head in the meantime.

[Kittyhawk]

That's my way of "handing it over" - I just put things down and walk away for a bit. I'll be back to them when I'm ready... I get some peace and space to clear my head in the meantime.
This technique is what I do for alot of things. It works, and works well. It comes down to that headspace business.

[vifferman]

Whelp, I'm off to the pshy... pscy... pschychc.. psky… Skytr5iatrist on Monday, so it'll be interesting if he has anything to say or prescribe that will help me. For $300, you'd certainly hope so.

I'm doing OK, but it's still a struggle. I feel like me again (the Effexor's all gone from my system) but I'm displaying definite depression symptoms the last few days.

[smoky]

Genuine questions; do you think depression is linked to music – or does it effect your depression, has alcohol consumption effected your depression, what about dope or party pills.
How much do these things influence depression?

[Kittyhawk]

Genuine questions; do you think depression is linked to music – or does it effect your depression, has alcohol consumption effected your depression, what about dope or party pills.
How much do these things influence depression?

Music - Im a musician. Different music styles can have different effects on an audience. eg..sad minorc music will make the listener feel down, something with major (happy) sounding chords and or vocals, will make the listener feel alive and be in a good mood.
If it has 7th chords or sus2 chords (unfinished sounding) then it has to reslovle to the next chord complete the progression. This particular sound produces uneasy/slight sad or an unfinished feel to a piece. Different musics reflect different moods.

Alcohol - yes tried it, but at the time it was a quick fix. Its not something that should be used everyday unless in moderation...and when consumed should not feel the need to go overboard. It's not a choice I'd use for a escape from depression, it only makes myself feel much worse. And more sorry for myself.

Party pills....tried them too, and an hour after taking them I was drinking alot of water...they really dehydrate the body. At the time I wasnt on any other medications. I'd never consider them as an option once was enough.

As for effects, it depends on amounts, what it is and how the body reacts to it. Alcohol is a depressant so taking this while on meds isnt a wise thing to do. You dont need anything to influence or trigger depression.

[Ronin]

Me..... I write from time to time.

One of you lot (who shall remain nameless) suggested I share.

Imagine a cavern deep deep underground. Silent - Dark – Still. Within this cavern there is water, quiet and deep. Could you see far enough, there would be no end. Could you sound the depths, you would not find the bottom. Thick buttressed walls give rise to vaulted ceiling, cathedral like in its grace, fortress like in its strength. The only movement is caused by the occasional seeping through the rock, little by little it penetrates. A silent incursion, slowly building up on great stone stalactites which have grown down from above. Finally, the weight of the moisture overcomes its attraction to the rock and releases it's self. Falling in absolute grace, this silent tear from above hurtles towards the water below and impacts on the surface. Instantly there is the double sound of the drop and it's splash. It echoes through out the cavern like a flash of light in the dark. Ripples from the impact roll out, casting their shadow across the clean smooth surface, they are the ultimate effect of a cause long forgotten. Confined now within this of effects. Waiting for the day when the wall will collapse and the torrent will escape, rushing headlong into the unknown.

[ManDownUnder]

How true that is!

It took me 3 goes to read and put it into context (for me anyway) and what you write is incredibly perceptive. I am constantly amased at the human brain.

The store of memories, the extent of that store, and the interaction between them all is incredible. And when something - as small as that drop - keeps adding to the pressure, little by little by little...

Something has to happen - one day. And the repair of the wall - depending on how great the fracture or collapse is.... is a task that needs doing. A task that needs starting, and a task that can only be taken day by day.

God I feel so unqualified to write this....