Depression...

[WickedOne]

Sometimes I can't do either, as some music makes me feel REALLY bad, and when I'm semi-non-functional, I can't play.
"Distraction tactics" are excellent: get wrapped up in something REALLY involving. Whatever it is.

Agreed, I still don't listen to certain music (Coldplay etc) as it brings me down. You learn what works for you and what doesn't. From there it is easy, just avoid the things that bring you down and do as much of the things that pick you up as possible!!!

[vifferman]

And then along came the good folks of KB...

Some of them are good.

Not the guy who sent a PM to me: "Why don't you just do us all a favour and go kill yourself".

[WickedOne]

Some of them are good.

Not the guy who sent a PM to me: "Why don't you just do us all a favour and go kill yourself".

I hit reply but honestly don't know what to say to that. That person is obviously not worth the time they spent typing that.

[ManDownUnder]

Some of them are good.

Not the guy who sent a PM to me: "Why don't you just do us all a favour and go kill yourself".

Why not do it? Would you kill yourself for the sake of a cold, or flu? They're worse - contagious! If I can be so presumptive - can I answer - as someone not depressed, supposedly on the same side of the fence he is.

Grow the fuck up. Understand what you're talking about before belittling yourself with private displays of ignorance (of the highest calibre if that makes you feel any better). In fact no - that's probably just fly so high it won't leave a vapour trail.

In terms he'll understand.... "Piss off noddy"

edit - When was that PM?

[BarBender]

Why not do it? Would you kill yourself for the sake of a cold, or flu? They're worse - contagious! If I can be so presumptive - can I answer - as someone not depressed, supposedly on the same side of the fence he is.

Grow the fuck up. Understand what you're talking about before belittling yourself with private displays of ignorance (of the highest calibre if that makes you feel any better). In fact no - that's probably just fly so high it won't leave a vapour trail.

In terms he'll understand.... "Piss off noddy"

edit - When was that PM?

Do you mean "Harden Up"?

[vifferman]

I hit reply but honestly don't know what to say to that. That person is obviously not worth the time they spent typing that.

I can't honestly comment, as I don't know him personally. I don't give a damn now, but at the time I wasn't the best, and it was not the sort of thing I needed to read.
I probably shouldn't have just baldly posted that, I guess. But having done so, I would like to make the point that ... phark - I dunno what my point was.
Umm... if there is a point, maybe it's that if he didn't have the guts to send that publicly, or say it to my face, why bother? I doubt whether he would've sent it if he'd known the effect or known what space I was in.
Then again, I dunno what space HE was in. Mebbe he was feeling like shit, and came on KB to get some entertainment, and didn't want to hear my bleating (whatever it was about; I can't recall).
That's another point: I dunno for sure, but maybe people like me have a tendency to be more introspective and introverted, and that contributes to the depression. It's definitely a predisposition.

A community like this generally does help, though, so keep up the good work, and feel free to say "Shut the fuck up!" if I bleat too much. In a caring, sharing, non-politically correct, non-SafetyNazi way, of course.

[ManDownUnder]

Do you mean "Harden Up"?

No - re-read my message (maybe it's not 100% clear... tis a little convoluted). Whoever it was that wrote message "go kill yourself" could not be more wrong. And to throw that venom at someone that is or was depressed???

No....

Harden up ain't the message - it's not that easy and is less than helpful.

[BarBender]

No - re-read my message (maybe it's not 100% clear... tis a little convoluted). Whoever it was that wrote message "go kill yourself" could not be more wrong. And to throw that venom at someone that is or was depressed???

No....

Harden up ain't the message - it's not that easy and is less than helpful.

Sorry MDU.
I did mis-read your post.
That PM mentioned by Vifferman sent me spinning....

[ManDownUnder]

That PM mentioned by Vifferman sent me spinning....

No worries - me too... We're on the same team mate.

All good.

[vifferman]

Harden up ain't the message - it's not that easy and is less than helpful.

True dat.
I think that was one of the highlights of the JK ads. Some of those other ads made me snort (sort of derisively) because they were so 'nice'.
"Know me before you judge me"? I think it's good in principle, but oftentimes I thought it was another Tui ad...

Maybe I should volunteer for an ad.
Cue "people that know me":
"Yeah, he often hangs out on Kiwi Biker. He's sometimes a pain in the arse, and I usually can't work out what he's on about."
"I like him, because he's such a loser, he makes me look good."
"We called him 'Random' because of the random things he came out with".
[Actually, that's true - my last boss did call me 'Random' ]
"He's our Dad, and he teases us mercilessly, but sometimes he makes us laugh. Even though he's old and his brain's fucked."
"If I'd known how much trouble he was going to be, and what weird kids we'd end up with, I'd have never married him!"
"He seemed to spend a lot of time browsing the Interdweeb".
[Voiceover, while showing this weird-looking guy]:
"This is Vifferman - like many people in NooZild, he (and the people around him) suffer from depression. "
Vifferman: Hi, my brain's fucked. Know me before you judge me. And kids - don't try this at home.

[BarBender]

If you feel you have depression - be courageous and get help.
The turmoil you put yourself through on a day to day basis both at work and at home is not worth it.

What is worse is the part it can play in the destruction of relationships to those who you hold dear...Your partner will give up on you because she/he doesnt know how to help you and your children grow up confused and angry.

[surfer]

Anyone can become depressed even the most hardened up amongst us. Usually caused by an event. Some though are prone to depression and it is something they have to live with. Sad to say that the 'get pissed with your mates and harden up attitude' makes me want to scream.

There is no way of really expressing what being depressed feels like. I had a bout of this that lasted nearly six months. I never ever want to go back there ever again. Mine was caused by a series of events.

I make sure that I am around people that I feel good with, that I exercise, that I do something for me, that I remember who I am and what I have done/achieved, that I set goals - sounds a bit CBT, but it works for some, it did for me. Therapy is good too. It has made me more compassionate and understanding of others.

[vifferman]

If you feel you have depression - be courageous and get help.
The turmoil you put yourself through on a day to day basis both at work and at home is not worth it.

What is worse is the part it can play in the destruction of relationships to those who you hold dear...Your partner will give up on you because she/he doesnt know how to help you and your children grow up confused and angry.

Very good advice. BarBender.

Umm... I dunno how to tell you this, but you should do summat about your skin. It looks kinda green and mouldy in your avatar...

[mstriumph]

i am one of life's little optimists
to me, the jar is always half-full, never half-empty

BUT
not intending to take the piss or belittle the subject .... reading this thread is making me depressed

so

is depression contageous?

[serious question]

[BarBender]

You should have seen the colour of my skin before I started taking the Aropax!!!