TV 8/2/07: Inside New Zealand - 4WD menace

[placidfemme]

Watched this last night, and it was really shocking to see how dangerous those 4x4's are to thier own drivers and exspecially OTHER drivers and pedestrians. Also shocked me that they are exempt from new import laws too... thats really bad and I don't see the point in the exemption.

Personally would never own on, and now after watching that I'll be 100 times more careful when anywhere near one of them.

[pixc]

I dont understand why 'townies' who dont go out 4 wheel driving, who dont own a boat or anything else to tow, own an SUV..as for roo-bars..what a joke. Should be banned unless you use the vehicle for hunting/farming.

SUVs drivers should go through the same licensing systems as a truck.

People under 20 should only be allowed to drive small low powered cars unless they have a special permit.

Was funny when the lady said she couldnt see anything behind her vehicle in the driveway..only to step out and see 20 kids behind her.

[Marmoot]

Watched the program last night.
What a load of propaganda.

It's 4WD now.
But, what's next? Bikes?
Then sports cars?
Then working vans?

The propaganda will likely go on until everyone drives a 4-door prius with hybrid engine.

[Nasty]

I was at work today so I only caught the last ten minutes. anyone care to give reviews on it? was it biased against 4x4 or was it perfectly balanced? (tui)

any interesting points or just a load of dribble?

I saw bits of it now whole thing .. and heard other reviews .. some say totally biased against .. others say reasonble .. I now have a friend who wants one .... (god knows why) ...

I have one .. I know its short commings ... but I do take it off road ... and I also have a mild disability so getting in and out is easier.

[Wolf]

and I also have a mild disability so getting in and out is easier.

That I can well understand. Years ago I injured my back and I found getting into and out of my girlfriend's car a literal pain for a few weeks.

At the time my girlfriend was looking at getting herself an SUV and I found getting into and out of the ones we test drove to be considerably easier than trying to lower myself into, or haul myself up from, a normal car seat.

[unhingedlizard]

yep, ban all 4wds that dont get used off road. And all dual adventure bikes that dont. and all sports bikes that can do over 100kph, that is the speed limit after all. And all people with a tow bar that doesnt get used more than three times a month (banging your shin on those really stings). and we should also ban............

You do realise the view out the back of a lot of modern cars with high boots is just as bad as a 4wd? Maximas and the like.

Guns dont kill people, crap drivers driving any car do.

[Wolf]

Watched the program last night.
What a load of propaganda.

It's 4WD now.
But, what's next? Bikes?
Then sports cars?
Then working vans?

The propaganda will likely go on until everyone drives a 4-door prius with hybrid engine.

Funny, I don't recall the narrator advocating the banning of SUVs.

Frankly, if I were doing an anti-SUV propaganda broadcast, I would have kept loaning out SUVs to Golf drivers until I found a couple who didn't have so much positive things to say about them - the bloke had a great time and, although he found a few minuses, quite liked it; the woman was most impressed with it.

[KLOWN]

Guns dont kill people, crap drivers driving any car do.

I think thier point is, crap driver in 4x4 do MORE damage then crap drivers in cars

[Wolf]

I think thier point is, crap driver in 4x4 do MORE damage then crap drivers in cars

Which means: ban crap drivers!

We do need a revamp of the licencing laws here - for all that people go on about "Asian drivers", the Japs actually have a far stricter licensing system than we do - it takes ages, costs heaps and requires a lot of training and testing. They don't just give licences away like our system does.

[Guitana]

Excuse me but what a load of fucken shit!!!
I watched that crap last night and the only conclusion I drew about 4Wds is that the Wankers that are buying them try to drive them like a car and get some sort of power trip out of it!!!!!!
I've driven 4WDs since I was 14 on the farm and never had a problem. these soft cocks want to get real!!!!
The trucks are heavier than a car and harder to stop under braking so drive them accordingly!!!
The handling is not set up so soccer mum can drive it like a ferrari after a few cocktails!! They dont handle like a car!!
If your not using it offroad you dont need Bullbars they're just for wank value in the city, but have a use in the bush!!!
If you buy a 4WD you must respect it for what it is as for not seeing behind you! fuck I dont have a problem if I cant see i get out and check especially off road get real Inside NZ stop ya whinging next they'll be banning masturbation cos it causes repettitive overuse syndrome or OOs!!
Get hard or go home!! Stop blaming the vehicles and look at the fucktards driving them it's not the 4WD that kills ya its the nut sack behind the steering wheel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nuf said!!

[Buddha#81:Me]

Ive got a company ute and its 4WD Im going to ask for danger money.......It make work more interesting in that I could die at any time.

[Marmoot]

Funny, I don't recall the narrator advocating the banning of SUVs.

Frankly, if I were doing an anti-SUV propaganda broadcast, I would have kept loaning out SUVs to Golf drivers until I found a couple who didn't have so much positive things to say about them - the bloke had a great time and, although he found a few minuses, quite liked it; the woman was most impressed with it.

They can't advocate banning SuV, since media is "supposed to be unbiased".
The program is in opinion-shaping mode, and thus you see how many percentage of it is spent on highlighting the crash danger and visibility, while only a few seconds spent on off-road and good driveability part (supposedly to "balance the views").
As with the comments, most of the comments circle around "if i crash my family would be safe" and only 1 or 2 comments goes to "easy to carry shoppings, etc".

Don't get me wrong. I hate them urban SUVs.
But stooping to hitting below the belt with biased media programme is just wrong. Why? Because if this goes on, one day they'll run a programme about bikes and we'll be in deep kimchi.

TV doco at it's lowest, I reckon.

[Finn]

SUV's are much safer than cars. I was coming home last night after dropping something off and was ripping down a side street at about 70 when a cat decided to cross in front of my path. If I was in the car I probably would have had to brake and swerve to avoid a possible dent but instead I even managed to turn in the direction of the moggie cause it almost got away.

KDONK KDONK. Excellent.

[pete376403]

The segment showing the danger of an SUV t-boning a car, where the car drivers head is impacted by the SUV bull-bar / bonnet - isn't that exactly how Possum Bourne was killed? (IIRC Bournes Subaru was hit by a Jeep Cherokee)

[Guitana]

Chalk one up for Finn way to go you cat slayer!!!!!!!!!